Saturday, May 14, 2005

Hariri and Asad - What Went Wrong? Mashnouq and Moubayed

The most interesting and important article on Lebanese - Syrian relations has been published in two parts by "al-Hayat" in Arabic. It is an interview with Nihad al-Mashnouq, Hariri's advisor on relations with Syria. As one Lebanese friend wrote me:

Mashnouq was indeed in the "inner core" of the Hariri pantheon, and he has a score to settle with the army and Lahoud, who forced him into exile, accusing him in a smear campaign, as I recall, of homosexuality. Whether there is any truth there, I don't know, but it was one of those accusations designed to blacken him, with no evidence.
He explains what went wrong, and why relations between Hariri and al-Asad collapsed well before the Lahoud extension. Already by 2000, "the door closed" between Hariri and Asad, he writes, because the Syrians did not want Hariri to become Prime Minister again.

President al-Asad told Allawi of Iraq that he insisted on extending Lahoud's presidency because it would be better to have the situation deteriorate with Lahoud there, than to have it deteriorate without him. Clearly, Bashar was convinced that Syria was going to lose Lebanon if he allowed Hariri to have his way. This is the best explanation why he extended Lahoud's presidency, even though the Americans had made it perfectly clear that they would not allow it. Bashar understood Hariri was working against Syria's interests in Lebanon long before the Lahoud extension.

Mashnouq says Bashar al-Asad had promised Sec. of State Powell that he would withdraw Syrian forces from all of Lebanon except the Baqa`a during their meeting in December 2003, but he never did it. At that point, Washington crew a line in the sand. Allawi tried to warn Bashar not to extend Lahoud's term, according to Mashnouq, but President Asad was determined to try and keep Lebanon.

Mashnouq claims Harir was murdered according to some larger plan for the Middle East, in which no powerful Sunni of Hariri's stature would be allowed take power. What exactly this means, you will have to determine for yourselves. Here are the links and a bit of the first part in Arabic.

تفاصيل أسوأ اجتماع عقده الرئيس الشهيد في حياته (1 من 2) ...نهاد المشنوق: سورية قتلت الحريري سياسياً... وخدام لم يكن يرغب بعلاقة بينه وبين بشار الأسد
بيروت – حازم الأمين الحياة 2005/05/12

ما الذي حصل في سورية وجعل من الرئيس الحريري هدفاً للسياسة السورية في لبنان؟

- انا أعتقد بأنه اذا كان لا بد من الكلام عن طبيعة النظام السوري التي نشأت في العام 2000، فلا بد من التأكيد ان الرئيس بشار الاسد وصل على حصان ابيض، ليس بسبب تسلمه السلطة، وانما بسبب تقبل المجتمع الدولي له باعتباره صورة حديثة عن سورية التي امضت وقتاً طويلاً في تراتبية سلطوية دائمة لم تتغير. وفي البداية ظهر ان لديه ميول تحديث، ورغبة بالتغيير وتفهماً لحاجات المجتمع الدولي واعترافاً مطلقاً بالشرعية الدولية. وكان معه في الوقت نفسه إرث والده الذي يمكن تقسيمه جزأين، الجزء الاول هو ثقل نظام عمره 30 سنة والجزء الثاني هو القيم والثوابت.

الذي ظهر بعد سنتين من حكم الدكتور بشار انه امسك ارث الوالد من دون اي تعديل. كان واضحاً ان ليس لديه الافق الدولي والنظرة الدقيقة لتغيرات العالم التي كانت متوافرة لوالده طوال 30 عاماً. ظهر ارتباك كبير في السياسة الخارجية مثلاً، وظهر ان هناك لغتين تتحدث بهما الخارجية السورية.

على الصعيد الداخلي وفي البداية ظهر وكأن هناك انفراجاً في سورية. ففتحت المنتديات الثقافية وأتيح لبعض المعارضين الكلام، ولكن فجأة صدر قرار باغلاق كل هذه المنتديات، وتم بعدها اعتقال نائبين منتخبين. اعتقد بأن الرئيس بشار وبدل ان يتخلى عن اثقال والده وان يحتفظ بقيمه فعل العكس اذ احتفظ بالأثقال وتخلى عن القيم ما عدا مسألة تحرير الجولان ولكن بالطريقة التي يعرفها.

في فترة الانفتاح السياسي في البداية، شكل الامن في سورية اول طوق على حركة الرئيس الاسد تحت شعار ان الامن سيد الاحكام. وبعد فترة تدخَّل سوسلوف حزب البعث عبدالحليم خدام وبدأ ينظر الى مسألة الاعتقالات وكأنها طبيعية، ونسي انه وأولاده كانوا لفترة ليست بعيدة معرضين للاعتقال. وانطلقت نظرية تماسك الحزب في وجه الرأي العام وليس لاقناع الرأي العام. انا تقديري انه عندها وضع الطوق الثاني حول الرئيس بشار وهو الطوق الحزبي، اذ أقنعوه بأنه لا أمان من دون الطوق الامني اولاً والطوق الحزبي ثانياً فيبقى الشعب السوري خارجهما، فاختار الاسد الأمن العام بدلاً من الرأي العام.

طوقان في الداخل وقراءة خاطئة للتطورات في العالم، فكان طبيعياً ان جزءاً من هذه السياسة لبنان، كما كان طبيعياً ان تصاب علاقتهم السياسية بلبنان بتدهور. وأصبحوا يعتقدون بأن في امكانهم فعل ما يريدون. ويقول الدكتور اياد علاوي عندما كان في بيروت انه اتصل بالرئيس الاسد قبل التمديد الاخير للرئيس لحود وقال له ان الاميركيين غير موافقين اطلاقاً على مسألة التمديد، وبعد جدل قال له علاوي ان اصراركم على التمديد اشبه بانتحار سياسي، فرد الاسد حرفياً: «انتحار سياسي مع تمديد افضل من انتحار سياسي من دون تمديد». الرئيس حافظ الاسد كانت لديه ميزة انه في اصعب الاوقات لا يقفل كل الابواب، فانتقلنا الى سياسة اخرى معاكسة تماماً. فعدم التمديد لم يكن رضوخاً للضغوط الاميركية وانما اعترافاً بالشرعية الدولية التي نشأت، وفي الواقع.

أنا معلوماتي انه عندما جاء وزير الخارجية الاميركي كولن باول عام 2003 الى سورية وقابل الرئيس الاسد وأجرى معه محادثات حول مسائل عدة منها المفاوضات العربية – الاسرائيلية ومنها لبنان ومنها مكاتب «حماس» و»الجهاد الاسلامي» في دمشق، ومنها العراق، يؤكد الجانب الاميركي انه تم الاتفاق على نقاط محددة منها الانسحاب من لبنان ما عدا البقاع قبل نهاية العام 2003.

وطبعاً هذا الامر لم يتم، ولم يتم الالتزام بمعظم بنود التفاهم. وبعدها اقتربنا من موضوع محاسبة سورية، وبعدها وصلنا الى القرار الرقم 1559. ثم جاء ارميتاج وبعده وليام برنز، وكان الرد السوري ان ما حصل في الجلسة هو استماع وليس اتفاق، ففقد الاميركيون صوابهم، فهم بحوزتهم محضر الاجتماع.

هذه هي المقدمات الفعلية لانهيار العلاقة بين النظامين اللبناني والسوري والتي سنشهد فصولاً اخرى منها.

Part Two: About the future of the Hariri family and Lebanon.

لهذه الأسباب أُبعدت من مكتب الحريري... وطه ميقاتي أعادني الى بيروت (2 من 2)... المشنوق: لحود أراد ردم الحفرة في اليوم الأول فنصحته بتولي التحقيق اذا لم يكن هو الفاعل
بيروت – حازم الأمين - يجيب نهاد المشنوق في الحلقة الثانية والاخيرة من الحديث معه عن أسئلة تتعلق بمسألة إبعاده عن مكتب الحريري ثم يعطي رأياً او توقعاً في مستقبل زعامة آل الحريري، ويختتم بحكاية الانفجار الذي أودى بالحريري وبزيارة قام بها للرئيس لحود، بعدما هاله الاهمال المتعمد في عملية التحقيق.


Another very good article in English placing General Aoun in historical context is by Sami Moubayed.

Michel Aoun comes home to roost
By Sami Moubayed

Aoun returned to Lebanon on the offensive, hateful of everyone and everything that kept him in exile for so long, promising destruction of the existing order and sweet revenge. The Beirut he entered last week was very different from the war torn one he left behind in 1990. That Beirut did not have a Rafik Harrri hallmark on it. Yet, all the actors of Beirut 1990 are still there.

Former president Amin Gemayel, who appointed Aoun prime minister in 1988, upsetting tradition in Lebanon because Aoun was a Maronite, is still there. Patriarch Man Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir, who worked for Aoun's downfall, is also still in religious office. Ex-prime minister Salim al-Hoss, who led a rivaling cabinet in 1989-1990, is there, and so is Samir Gagegea, who Aoun had viciously fought in the eastern districts of Beirut. The general who had been chief-of-staff and who had orchestrated Aoun's exodus from Baabda Palace, stands today in Baabda Palace, the legitimate and internationally recognized president of the Lebanese Republic.

Also see Sami's previous article: The waxing of the Shi'ite crescent.
DAMASCUS - Since the Islamic revolution took place in Iran in 1979, one of its prime objectives was to strengthen Shi'ites all over the Muslim world. Before that revolution, they were a disinherited, underprivileged and neglected community in Lebanon and Iraq.

This "Shi'ite emancipation" was first done in Lebanon, through the charismatic cleric Musa al-Sadr, who was funded and supported by the mullahs of Tehran in his "Movement of the Dispossessed" and its military branch, Amal, created in 1974 and 1975, respectively.

They later supported Hezbollah, a pure Iranian creation, that strove at first to establish a theocracy in Lebanon, similar to the one in Iran...

In Iraq, the mullahs began to fund, train, protect and harbor Shi'ite dissidents opposed to the regime of Saddam Hussein, where they were oppressed by the Sunni minority. Ibrahim Jaafari, the new prime minister, who is the de facto ruler of the new Iraq, spent the years 1980-89 as a fugitive in Iran.

After 25 years of underground struggle, this community succeeded in toppling Saddam, ironically, with the help of the US.....
Also see: No room for political Islam in Syria
By Sami Moubayed
Since pressure increased on Damascus in 2003, Syria has stressed that it wants to reach out to what it describes as "nationalist opposition", men who are not funded, allied, or in support of a US-engineered regime change in Syria, like the US-based Farid al-Ghadri. One week after the fall of Baghdad, the Doha-based al-Jazeera TV interviewed members of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, and all of them called for dialogue with the regime, rather than confrontation, stressing that there was no Ahmad Chalabi among the Syrian opposition, and pointing out that they would never side with the US against Syria, despite their history of conflict with the Ba'athists. The message was noted, and highly appreciated by the Syrian government.....

24 Comments:

At 5/14/2005 02:48:00 PM, Anonymous sottovoce said...

There are two points that need to be clarified concerning what Moubayed says about Aoun's appointment by Gemayel. First, by appointing Aoun who is indeed a Maronite, Gemayel had taken advantage of an article in Lebanon's Constitution that stipulates that should a President of the Republic reach the end of his term while no successor at the Presidency has been elected, he may appoint a Maronite Prime Minister who will form a government entrusted with the task of electing a new President. The second point is more banal, Aoun was commander in chief of the Lebanese Army, not Chief of Staff.

 
At 5/14/2005 03:48:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

check out the latest results of fifa world cup qualifiers.

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/

take your minds of politics

 
At 5/15/2005 03:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"After 25 years of underground struggle, this community succeeded in toppling Saddam, ironically, with the help of the US"

Ah yes, I remember it well. In April, 2003 100,000 Iraqi Shiite exiles poured across the Iran-Iraq border, soon joined by 500,000 native Shiites and a few hundred confused US Marines. In three weeks they had defeated Saddam's army and ruled the country.

You know, the Arab capacity for self-delusion is absolutely staggering.

 
At 5/16/2005 08:25:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Josh,
I agree with sottovoce. In Lebanon, when the President's term is expiring / expired, and there is no elected President, the Commander in Chief of the army (who is always a Maronite) becomes the interim Prime Minister, in Baabda (not in the Serail, which is the siege of the Permanent Prime Minister, a Sunni Moslim). The Constitution also dictates who can or cannot be a Minister in such an interim cabinet. The reason this is so clearly stated in the Constitution is to "force" all sects in Lebanon to be "moderate" so a consensus occurs when the President's term expires. History has taught us, with the term extensions for both Hrawi and Lahoud, that another solution to the void is available.

 
At 5/17/2005 12:26:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

Public Statement

AI Index: MDE 24/025/2005 (Public)
News Service No: 129
13 May 2005

Syria: Ongoing risks for Syrian returnees


In recent months scores of Syrian returnees, including several children, have been arrested, or remain detained incommunicado without charge or pending unfair trials, and at risk of torture. In the past three years, at least ten returnees appear to have "disappeared" and several have died as an apparent result of torture and ill-treatment. Particularly at risk appear to be those with present, past or familial connections with the unauthorised Muslim Brotherhood (MB). The violations are taking place despite assurances of safe return being given to former political exiles. Despite this, foreign governments continue to deport failed asylum seekers in the apparent belief that they would not be at risk of persecution.

Mus'ab al-Hariri, aged 18, remains detained at Sednaya prison without access to his family or lawyer since his arrest at the Syrian-Jordanian border in July 2002, during his first visit to Syria. The Syrian Embassy in Saudi Arabia, to where the parents had moved in 1981, had reportedly assured Mus'ab's mother that he could return safely. He was reportedly tortured soon after his arrest, and later during interrogation by Military Intelligence. He is being tried before the Supreme State Security Court (SSSC), whose trials fall far short of international standards for fair trials, charged with belonging to the MB. In 1998 his brothers Yusef and 'Ubada, then aged 15 and 18, were arrested shortly after entering Syria, and sentenced by Field Military Courts (FMCs), whose secret trials are grossly unfair, for alleged membership of a secret organization. They were released in 2000 and January 2004. The final hearing for Mus'ab al-Hariri is scheduled for 19 June.

Ahmad 'Ali al-Masalma, an MB member, died on 28 March 2005, two weeks after being released from detention and two months after his return from exile in Saudi Arabia. He died reportedly as a result of torture and ill-treatment suffered in detention, including the denial of essential medication. He had reportedly received an assurance from the Syrian Embassy that he could return safely.

Majid Bakri Suleyman remains detained since his arrest on return from exile in Yemen to Syria on 13 January 2005. His decision was based on a pardon issued by the Syrian authorities on 15 July 2004 related to military personnel who fled the country. Mahmoud Samaq was also arrested on his arrival from exile in Yemen on 12 April 2005, having reportedly received assurances from the Syrian Embassy.

'Abdel Salam al-Saqaa remains detained since being arrested at the Jordanian border on 27 August 2004. He has apparently been tortured. His family had been living in exile in Jordan but had then received passports at the Syrian Embassy in Amman. In March 2002, MB-affiliate Mohammad Hasan Nassar died in incommunicado detention after being arrested one week earlier on his voluntary return from exile in Jordan. Since 2000 Jordan is said to have become less hospitable for Syrian exiles who may be deported on account of alleged minor misdemeanours.

Several Syrians remain detained since their deportation from countries where they failed to obtain asylum. These include MB member Mohammed Osama Sayes who on 3 May 2005 was arrested on arrival after his forcible return from the UK, via the Netherlands. On 19 January 2005 MB-affiliate 'Abd al-Rahman al-Musa was arrested on arrival from the USA, also via the Netherlands. Both reportedly have been denied access to a lawyer, have not been charged with any offence nor have been brought before a court. MB member Muhammad Sa'id al-Sakhri was released after 11 months' detention in October 2003, after reports that he died under torture, following his arrest on forcible return from Italy along with his wife Maysun Lababidi and their four children.

At least ten Syrians returning from exile in Iraq have suffered human rights abuses. 'Abdullah Qadour al-Thamr and Ziad al-Dakheel died in custody in May and April 2004 respectively, both reportedly as a result of being denied specialized medical treatment and very unhealthy conditions of detention. 'Abdullah Qadour al-Thamr's two bothers Mu'az and Mohammad, are among nine others who appear to have "disappeared" after their arrests upon return between September 2002 and April 2003. The SSSC sentenced to death two other MB-affiliates returning from Iraq during the same period, Mahmud 'Ali al-Nabhan and Muhammad Ahmad al- Effendi, then commuted the sentence to 12 years in prison.

Dual Syrian-Canadian national Arwad Muhammad 'Izzat al-Boushi was apparently sentenced to 12 years imprisonment for alleged MB membership after a grossly unfair trial before an FMC in July 2003. He was arrested on 3 July 2002 when he returned from Canada to visit his ailing father. He was reportedly tortured during pre-trial detention. Similarly dual Syrian-Canadian national 'Abdallah al-Malki was arrested on arrival in May 2002 and detained for 22 months, without charge, during which he was tortured. Dual Syrian-Canadian Maher Arar was released in October 2003 after 13 months' detention without charge, during which he was tortured, after being "rendered" from the USA via Jordan. In October 2004 Syrian-born German national Muhammad Haydar Zammar was "disappeared" from his solitary confinement cell in Damascus where he had been held without charge for about three years. He was arrested in Morocco in October or November 2001 then secretly transferred to Syria.

Background
Affiliation to the Muslim Brotherhood is punishable by the death penalty under Syrian Law 49 of July 1980, although the sentence is usually commuted to a 12 year prison term. Many Muslim Brotherhood supporters and sympathisers, and their families, fled Syria following armed clashes which began in the late 1970s, and the introduction of Law 49 in 1980.

 
At 5/17/2005 09:39:00 AM, Anonymous Ibrahim said...

Josh, Habibi, provide us with some more news about Lebanon.

Chukran

 
At 5/17/2005 11:28:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buddy this is SYRIA comment...hence syria, Lebanon is no longer part of syria and there are many lebanese blogs out there. Hope that wasnt rude but you get my point...

 
At 5/17/2005 02:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. Frankly, I'm only interested in Lebanese news insofar as they directly impact Syria. This is a Syria blog and I come here to learn and read about Syria. If you want news and information on Lebanon, kindly go elsewhere. At times, some here have hijacked the focus to Lebanon, which caused me (and a few I know) to lose interest for a while.

Thanks for maintaining focus.

 
At 5/18/2005 07:09:00 AM, Blogger Ahmad Saïd said...

fellas! Let's face it, there is nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in Syria were it not for Lebanon. You're like Cuba of the Middle East; a superanuated culture, jaded society, and mediaeval politics. Lebanon was not only the cash-cow of your corrupt leadership, but it was the lungs of your rotting body... So there you have it! No go quietly back into your slumbers!!!

 
At 5/18/2005 11:08:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh Ahmad take your whining ass elsewhere. I think we're all sick of you people coming in telling us we are nothing if it werent for you. Go do it elsewhere and satisfy your inner-ego by polluting someone elses waves.

 
At 5/18/2005 11:50:00 AM, Anonymous Ghassan said...

Dear Friends, Syrians, Lebanese and others:
Please keep it professional and just provide facts and opinions not emotions!

For Lebanese news, please go to
openlebanon.org/modules/xlhd1/

I am Lebanese and I come to this blog to read and discuss SYRIAN news. So, please join us and contribute, again with FACTS AND OPINIONS NOT EMOTIONS!!!

 
At 5/18/2005 12:42:00 PM, Blogger Ahmad Saïd said...

Anonymous 11:08, my ego is quite satistied rattling your cage right here thank you very much! Apparently little boys like you can't deal with failure. tear!

 
At 5/18/2005 12:52:00 PM, Anonymous DavidW said...

I agree with Ghassan's point about keeping things civil and on-point here, *however* it's disingenuous (read 'bull***t) for anybody to say that these two countries have nothing to do with each other.

My mother-in-law is Lebanese, but born in Syria, and a large number of her family still live there, so obviously their lives are intertwined...

Many credible reports maintain that Syria is covertly keeping her fingers in the Lebanese pie, so to speak, and there's no doubt that as long as Lahoud is around that saying Syria and Lebanon have nothing to do with each other is bunk.

I'm glad that Syria is finally opening up, to the point that such a democratic thing as blogging is allowed, but unfortunately the Internet doesn't allow you to pick and choose who you want to read or post.

I'm sure that many Syrians are sick and tired of hearing about Lebanon, but that's the reality of the situation as it stands today--how you choose to deal with reality is up to you!

 
At 5/18/2005 02:09:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous 11:08, my ego is quite satistied rattling your cage right here thank you very much! Apparently little boys like you can't deal with failure. tear!"

Im glad your ego is satisfied by writing on a blog online. How about you go get laid or something?

What part of failure did i experience nevermind fail to deal with? Are you talking anything sense? Honestly i dont see where you're coming from...

Meanwhile, i got a tissue for you if you want to wipe that tear of your face. Dont forget who your daddy is my friend ;)

 
At 5/18/2005 05:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmad Said Said (ASS),

First of all, I am not Syrian, so your uncivilized insults were misguided. Second, I DO come here to read and learn about Syria and can do so more effectively and more pleasantly without your attitude and language polluting the place.

As a European who knows something about the Middle East, I find it funny that a Lebanese ASS (Ahmad Said) is pulling attitude on Syrians. Frankly, from my European vantage point, I can make a good argument that Lebanon has a midieval society (civil war), jaded politics (read news) and more than enough corruption to go around, but I don't because I'm more civil than that. Besides, if this is your view of Syrians, it's not saying much about you that they ruled Lebanon for over 30 years.

The attitude you display here is one reason so much ruin has been visited on your country, and why, even in peace, you continue to have such internal divisions.

This is not a place for insults and one-upmanship. Keep it clean and civil cuz you have a lot of junk in your trunk. Got that, ASS?

Anonymous at 2:35

 
At 5/18/2005 11:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the thieves and bloodsuckers gangs of al assad created all this hatred ...but the majority of the lebanese people understand the dictinction between the regime and the syrian people.

 
At 5/19/2005 12:01:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

for the "al-asad gangs" to suck blood, they need collaborators from within lebanon...dont single out the syrian regime while forgetting all those in lebanon who supported the regime...hence your hatred is uncalled for.

 
At 5/19/2005 01:37:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with u anonym@12:01 AM Berri,Elie Hobeika,Pakradoni,Hardane,Murr and other war criminals are part of this gang.

 
At 5/19/2005 03:54:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually to make a list of "corruept war criminals" would take serveral volumes. Apart Berrie, Hobeika and etc, don't forget the rest whom people now refer to as angles: Jumblatt, and co, and Saint Hariri himself were into the Syrian game too (you seriously think St. Hariri didn't make something out of it? That he was just a philanthrope? he was just as corrupt as the others). The reality is that every single one had a bite of this cake. Politicans and normal people too.

Who do you think made use of the free electricity and oil that Syria provided Lebanon with? How many average Lebanese make a living working at banks that manage Syrian money? Everyone had a share of this pie, no one is innocent and certainly no one is in a position to lecture the other (hint: Ahmed Said). And the reality is that this will go on like this forever, stop fooling yourselves.

PS: Before any stupid blind attacks, I am French, Daddy to the Lebanese to borrow an expression! And btw, we too are making little something out of this mess! No innocents whatsoever. It is also known as politics.

PSS: Let's talk about Syria, Syria only! Please!! There is a big event to take place soon that invovles Syrias internal politics and the debate on this site is still about Lebanon! Forget Lebanon one you connect here!!

 
At 5/19/2005 11:06:00 AM, Anonymous DavidW said...

you anonymous cowards make me laugh--what are you, the blog police? Look at the title of this post, for starters...

this isn't your blog, or even our blog, but Dr. Landis' blog, and obviously he realizes that both countries are interconnected in many ways, and he chooses to include information about Lebanon in some of his posts. Are you trying to tell him what to do? what a joke!

ACs, if you don't want to hear about Lebanon, go start your own blog, and make your own rules, and keep out anybody whom you don't agree with--judging from the illiterate nature of your writing, you'd be hard pressed to write a full sentence that doesn't contain an insult...

And enough with the 'daddy' comments already--you sound like an abused child!

 
At 5/19/2005 05:33:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude,

"ACs, if you don't want to hear about Lebanon, go start your own blog, and make your own rules, and keep out anybody whom you don't agree with--judging from the illiterate nature of your writing, you'd be hard pressed to write a full sentence that doesn't contain an insult..."

1. Run-on sentence. BIG TIME!
2. "illiterate nature of your writing"? Oxymoron?

I agree with you about freedom to write what you want. So, just as you defend ASS's right to inject Lebanon in every post, you should respect others' right to ask to keep it focused; at least they were polite.

 
At 5/19/2005 07:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

DavidW is the macdaddy revealing his name!!! whoa dude I think you beat us to being sad and logging in everytime to post a comment.

We never imposed posting preferences on Josh (I assume you assumed we did -and hence made a total ass out of yourself). Our posts were simply to remind readers that this blog centers around Syria with the occasional and necessary reference to countries affecting it. Hence, lebanon will be mentioned and there is no problem with that, but requesting Josh center his SYRIAcomment on Lebanon seems absurd dont you think? That was the basic premise for the argument until you mr DavidW decide to give your 2cents regarding nothing in particular...simple banter. Please know what the issue is before you attack it.

Also, there is no law requiring commentators be literate. Because we cant all afford the luxuries you have, our eductation is unfortunately flawed...Please excuse us and look further into our posts...

Oh yeah, if you dont want to read the daddy comments, start your own blog with restrictions on comments. Also, you sound like the BLOG POLICE you ridicule us as being,-requesting we refrain from certain term usage.

Hypocrite, Retard (not an insult), Non-Anonymous and mildly ridiculous. -DavidW you rock my world.

 
At 5/23/2005 04:00:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://forum.shrc.org/english/bb/Forum3/HTML/001111.html



By the Soul Of Syria

I should note that I really had a hard time wanting to read this article. As I was reading, I was angry at how the Assads, starting with the biggest criminal of all, Hafez Assad have made a mockery of the human brain... Even a well respected Aamerican Professor is falling into the Assadist traps, and even he agrees with the stories the Mukhabarat circulate and have circulated for many years, prior and after the throning of the little doctor who was described and still is being described as "Western Educated" for having passed two years in England (all expenses paid, and a hot line tying him to his mother from London to Damascus). How did this man become miraculously Western Educated, I have yet to see a Westerner admit that this is all of their Fabrications, and their will to keep him imposed on the Syrian people.
Now, the mess that Assad, the father had created and passed to his son has become the "intellectual" reason for Dr. Joshua Landis and may be others, to argue against change...

How beautiful!

 
At 5/25/2005 11:30:00 AM, Anonymous DavidP said...

'Liban : vers de nouvelles cassures ?' There was quite a long article by Lebanon's Minister of Communication and Tourism, Charles Rizk, in Le Monde (2-3 Mai 2005), which I've only just got round to reading.

http://davidp1.blogspot.com/2005/05/irans-gorbachev.html

 

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