Friday, July 15, 2005

"A Second Chance In Syria," by Ignatius

David Ignatius of the Washington Post has been trying to figure out what US policy is toward Syria. He calls it a "work in progress," but one that has hope for Syrian reformers.

A Second Chance In Syria
Friday, July 15, 2005; Page A23

There's a certain familiarity to the scenario: A Baathist regime is clinging to power in a key Arab country that has a history of making trouble for its neighbors. The ruler of this country comes from a religious minority that imposes its will through control of the military and the intelligence service. The people in the country want change, but they fear instability.

So what does the United States do about it? Three years ago with Iraq, the answer was to prepare a military invasion. As we can see from the daily newspaper headlines, that approach hasn't worked out too well.

The Bush administration is now trying a different approach in Syria. But it's hard to sort out from public statements just what that policy is. So, over the past several weeks, I have been asking senior administration officials privately to explain their game plan. It's fair to say that it's a "work in progress" but one that offers some promise -- especially for Syrians who would like to see a peaceful process of democratic change.

Administration officials say their goal is to change Syrian behavior rather than the regime itself. They argue that President Bashar Assad has been supporting violent extremists in Lebanon, in the Palestinian territories and most of all in Iraq. That's "unacceptable," says a senior administration official, and Assad must show he's serious about change. "We are not trying to destabilize Syria, but we are trying to change the conduct of the regime," he says.

A second senior administration official notes: "Assad needs to make a strategic choice for change. That's the only way he saves himself. Otherwise he's isolated." The officials say they're unimpressed by arguments that a post-Assad Syria could be as bloody and chaotic as post-Saddam Hussein Iraq has become. As for Assad's claims that he's fostering internal reform, administration officials are underwhelmed. They say the regime's pressure on dissidents has actually increased in recent weeks.

The administration's true goal is "regime change on the cheap," according to former CIA analyst Flynt Leverett, now at the Brookings Institution. That may be right; certainly there are some officials who would be happy if a coup toppled Assad.

The problem with U.S. policy is actually that it's too blase about the future of Syria. Here's an arena where the administration could be more aggressive -- not in the sense of threatening military action or a coup but in the sense of engaging reform elements in Syria and encouraging change more openly and directly. Syrians are sophisticated and secular people, and they're tired of being poor. They see the world changing, and they want to be part of that process. As for Assad, the reality is that internal reform may be the only way for him to save his ruling Alawite Muslim minority from an eventual bloodbath.

The right goal in Syria is, in fact, a peaceful process of regime change -- led by Assad if he has the political will, or by someone else if he doesn't. The Syrian leader consolidated power last month at a congress of the ruling Baath Party. In the following days, he purged most of the Old Guard that was seen as blocking reform. That means Assad now has nobody to blame but himself.

America's best approach is the one that has worked in Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine and Lebanon. That is to foster strong civil society groups that can gradually open a process of internal debate. As in post-communist societies, the challenge is to provide resources to democratic activists -- scholarships, fellowships, conferences, grants. The web of change should be spun from all directions -- Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Israel, Europe, America.

Another reason to be ambitious about change in Syria is that the effort has an international mandate. U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, which forced the withdrawal of Syrian troops from Lebanon, provides a legal framework for monitoring Syria. The administration also has a powerful partnership with France, which wants to maintain the pressure on Damascus. When French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy visited Washington last week, he mentioned the possibility that the Lebanese army might move to the Syrian border in a show of force to stop Syria from infiltrating intelligence agents into Lebanon and smuggling weapons to Hezbollah. That's a good idea.

History doesn't often present second opportunities to get it right. But the United States and its allies now have a chance to prod a Baathist regime into a peaceful transition toward democratic reforms, under the mandate of a U.N. resolution. America needs some successes in the Arab world, amid the Iraq fiasco. Working to replicate Lebanon's reform intifada in neighboring Syria makes good sense.
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Secretary of State, Rice's recent accusations that Syria assisted Islamic Jihad in the terrorist attack in Natanya, Israel can't help this policy or US faith in Bashar's good faith.

75 Comments:

At 7/15/2005 07:51:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

No Comments.Posted for search engine bots.

 
At 7/15/2005 08:44:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Re: "over the past several weeks, I have been asking senior administration officials privately to explain their game plan. It's fair to say that it's a "work in progress" but one that offers some promise -- especially for Syrians who would like to see a peaceful process of democratic change"

I thought this work in progress that was going on for 3 years ended up in the trash and they ran out of paper. Are you saying the new work in progress was again picked out of the trash can and put on the drawing board again.
Not again. What a lame article from a lame writer and a lame newspaper. Why no one want to reply to this comment:

Why President George Bush and his administration is serious about Democracy in the Middle East.? and If that is the case, then why would the Bush Administration go to war against Iraq, murdering Three Hundred Thousands Iraqis, killing over 1700 of his own young men and women, wounding over 20,000 Americans and not against Syria?

After all, Syria is just as, if not more oppressive Baathist dictatorship than Saddam, It is officially the #1 state sponsor of violent terrorist organizations and groups, It is the #1 remaining gross violator of Human Rights (don't tell me North Korea is), It has the worlds largest active Chemical and Biological weapons Programs, it has the worlds largest stock pile of WMD, according to the U.S Central Unintelligence Agency, it has the most advanced active Biological weapon development program, and it has maintained a small research facility for Nuclear weapon that clandestinely smuggled Nuclear material out of Sweden, It occupied another country (Lebanon), it has committed genocide against it's own people killing over 30,000 in Hama alone, and according to the U.S. department of States it is classified as the world number one oppressive dictatorial regime. That is not all, just getting tired off typing. ( Sudan, Missing Iraq WMD, older assassinations of Lebanese officials

So why would George Bush and his administration go to war against Iraq and not Syria? or even seek regime or internal behavior change.

Why the Bush administration and Europe are not organizing and helping Syrian opposition groups like Iran and Russia doing so well and much to the appreciation of the free Syrians?

How come no one wants to answear these question, rather for three years they pull the same old broken record and old work in progress that was already thrown in trash over and over again.

 
At 7/15/2005 08:48:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M.Aldendeshe said...

Sorry don't have time to fix edit and typos.

 
At 7/15/2005 09:01:00 AM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Secretary of State, Rice's recent accusations that Syria assisted Islamic Jihad in the terrorist attack in Natanya

Ha-ha. She better do a talking points review with Rummy--he claims it's Iran! What amateurs!

 
At 7/15/2005 09:05:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

A few good points in the article (yes, Syrians are tired to be poor, especially when a few -about 5% of the population - monopolize Syria's resources), but a lot of non-realistic prose. Has the man who wrote this article ever been to Syria? He attempts to sound realistic, but fails to grasp the essence of Syria, the unity of the citizenry.

The Lebanese army will stop Syrian intelligence agents from entering Lebanon? How? What about Israeli agents, French agents, US agents, and scores of others? That the US reporter gives much credence to Douste-Blazy (a Frenchman for God's sake) and credits him with good ideas in regard to Syria is a farce. Let us look into other French people with good ideas about Syria: Catroux ("Saladin, nous re-voila!") and de Villepin ("Farouk al Shar'eh, please bear with us in our plans to prevent a US-UK war on Iraq; I will appoint you chief pro-French poodle"). Sure, these two are staunch Roman Catholics while Douste-Blazy is a freemason.

If free elections are to be held today in Syria, you could get a good showing just by being THE party that bashes the USA and France in the media. Heck, Schroeder won in Germany on an anti-coalition platform.

This article on US policy towards Syria proves one of two things: either that the US administration is clueless (including relying on wishful thinking) or that the reporter is (or he relied heavily on clueless second hand sources). The Israeli agents who monitor the US printed press will without any doubt use the article in the Washington Post as wrapping for their falafel sandwishes.

 
At 7/15/2005 09:26:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

To Kingcrane,

You nailed it on the head when you said this:

"If free elections are to be held today in Syria, you could get a good showing just by being THE party that bashes the USA and France in the media. Heck, Schroeder won in Germany on an anti-coalition platform.

This article on US policy towards Syria proves one of two things: either that the US administration is clueless (including relying on wishful thinking) or that the reporter is (or he relied heavily on clueless second hand sources). The Israeli agents who monitor the US printed press will without any doubt use the article in the Washington Post as wrapping for their falafel sandwishes."

 
At 7/15/2005 09:35:00 AM, Anonymous James Donalson said...

Reply to Metaz..
The reason why Iran and Russia and not the European or American are helping the Syrian oppositions is largely because Syrian government assets and those of it’s corrupt officials are entirely deposited in European and American banks and Jewish owned investment houses. Neither Moscow nor Tehran has anything to gain from the Assad’s anymore.

 
At 7/15/2005 09:44:00 AM, Anonymous S.R. said...

Very nice blog. I want to thank Mr. Landis, and ask what sparked his interest.

Syria is gonna change.

I will be the presidential Advisor in 2007, and not a Fadel or Mahjoub, I will be the one with the word, the big man, the man with a plan.. I informed them that I won't accept the job unless I have authority.


few things that are gonna happen very soon:

- 70% Increase in Public employees pay, I don't care, print money, we can handle a 10% inbflation

-Establish a Corruption whistleblower hotline, with 40 employees Full time.

-Run a nationwide advertising campaign to encourage people to report corrupt officials, from President to a corner cop. I don't care, let them all go to jail.

-Every adult in Syria has to plant a tree, verification through Interior Ministry.

-Evaluation of Public Servants in non sensitive ministries, expecting to fire 15% of workforce, who get paid with out showing up to work.

-Reducing the budget designated to the Armed Forces, with over 20% of our budget, still weaker thena Burmese Army.

Don't want to bore with all initiatives, but watch them come to reality very soon.

 
At 7/15/2005 09:46:00 AM, Anonymous mathew smith said...

dear metaz & james,

which syrian opposition groups are supported by iran and/or russia? this is the first time i'm reading about this...

could you give specific examples, please?

thank you!

 
At 7/15/2005 10:00:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz said...

Give you an example? why on earth I want to share this intelliegence information with anyone, contact your local Intelligence Agency to get this information. If you are a Syrian opposition contact web-media@ssprs.com, we can discuss this after I.D. verification and your opposition status?

 
At 7/15/2005 10:05:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to help you out Mr.Smith, you can stand on the front door of your local TacoBell you will probably get more accurate answears from the people there
than an intelligence Anal-ist turned torturer.

 
At 7/15/2005 10:22:00 AM, Anonymous One Disobedient Mother Fucker said...

Metaz Bro,

Syria's regime is bad. I just don't like your style of pitching how bad it is, like selling blenders door to door. I hope you, me, and all other Syrians change this energy into home grow dissident, and go pitch fellow Syrians to go on Marches asking for freedom. Use your energy to ask for a month of civil disobeyence, until what the emergency law is ceded. Today, with reporters TV crews at every corner in Damascus, nobody can jail a bunch of people without worldwide notice...I really hope you take this seriously, and if you do..I'm in it, will be in the motherland in the first week of august

 
At 7/15/2005 10:26:00 AM, Anonymous mathew smith said...

dear mr. metaz,

i did not intend to insult you. i am merely following the news on the middle east and do not want to rely on the mainstream media. that is why i am reading this blog and the commments.

i have never heard about russia and/or iran supporting syrian opposition groups before and was thus somewhat surprised to read about it here in your comment. and i did not know that this was "intelligence information". indeed, if it is, then why would you mention it here?

again, i did not mean to offend anyone here. i just wanted to ask what i thought to be an obvious question.

to "anonymous": i live in europe. we don't have any taco bells here.

 
At 7/15/2005 10:33:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Matt Smith,

I don’t know for how long you have been following this forum, but I have been doing so for a long time and I thought a little tip might come in handy: if you want to read the comments just for the sake of fun, or a little break between work then read the stuff from SSRP, Metz and company. If you really want to learn something and share your things then don’t bother getting yourself in the SSRP cycle. In Syria we say: that the advice is worth a camel (in the old days that would mean lots of money I guess). I would love to hear your thoughts on the situation in Syria. Regards!

As for SR,

I love the one with the hotline and the 40 employees (this reminds of Ali Baba and the 40 thieves hihi).

The tree one was also cool, I also loved the verification process (so the police-state mentality is not going to change when you come to power I guess, is it?)

Regarding the “advertising campaign”, I don’t think you need one! There is no non-corrupt official! Save yourself the effort and just put them all behind bars (again the police state mentality).

It maybe true that you will become advisor the president as you said, I just didn’t get it if you actually meant the president of a local book club?

Thank for laugh though, now let’s get back to some serious work!

 
At 7/15/2005 12:19:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M.Aldendeshe said...

To this great disobedient mother fucker,
Love your name, that is the kind of people we are looking for at SSPRS, especially if you know how to speak English ( to read technical manuals). Know how to use a PC and have a knowledge of GPS, IT, Cellular systems or other similar technical skills. We like mother fuckers to get quick ranking here. We despise Diplomats.

Yes that what I did most of my life to earn a living, selling blenders door to door (not exactly, was more like Penthouse suites at Hutton centers and other great Orange County buildings to Corporate Purchasing offices around this great country, America). But that is my style of selling and promoting. Weather you or god like it or not, is not of my concern Live with it.

No. We can not operate as you suggested. It is dangerous and irresponsible for the Syrian people and the oppositions. It would not be fair and moral to do business George Bush Style: BRING THEM ON and use innocent farm boys and ranch handlers to do the fight.
It wouldn’t be brave of me and you to call the people of Syria into demonstration and disobedience outright publicly and subject them ( and their families) to arrest, beating, horrible torture and death. This is typical way American have cowardly done it with the regime of Saddam and Bashar all the while their Diplomat and Intelligence agents were cooperating and helping them and the Corporation are making back door deals.

As a leader I have my own security setup and leverages, you do that I will do this. The poor people have nothing and neither you or me are capable at this point in defending them or having any leverage on the regime to not do it. Maybe soon, it will be a different story, but not now.

The problems that will be present in opposing the government is Syria are unique and by itself can make a good case study. For example. We sent only less than 10 emails to Syrian government offices making them aware of SSPRS website in April before the Syrian Security shut down the emails of most publicly known state emails. I wish the CIA will help in providing the Syrian oppositions with whatever they have that is more of a private listings of emails so we can saturate it. (dream on….) We can buy the list, but the Syrian seller is asking too much and we can not afford it. Beside, it will be a one shot only, afterward the list will be obsolete and you have to pay for another one.

I will not be so cruel to send an email to average Syrian asking them to rebel, organize, express his opinion or show up for demonstration. Not only almost all will be arrested and imprisoned, few if any will show up.

We contemplated in the past the use of CD and DVD publishing and distribution, thought we will make a little studio in California and cargo the shipment to Lebanon or Iraq whereby we can smuggled to the country after paying one of President Assad loyal generals Ten bucks for a truck load delivery. We have even contemplated dropping it aerially inside Syria for distribution. Distribution, that is what killed the plan from the start. Again you are putting the activists in harm way, in Syria, this is not a trip to the station and released forthwith, as you learned recently, a person in my city of Homs was arrested in the Mahatta carrying 100 some copies of an opposition literatures, he will be facing the Military court. These are just some of the problems you will run into in Syria.

I appreciate your courage and need people just like you with that kind of determination to free Syria from oppression and bring it into the modern age, something the richest and most powerful country in the world ( not in my book, the USA military is technologically antiquated and maintains obsolete military style and systems that is okay to fight a helpless, armless Iraqi Bedouins, in addition it is the most financially bankrupt country in the world) could not do in Iraq nor in Syria

No, you will not be in the motherland in August, it will take couple of Years in June 2007. Keep it touch please.

 
At 7/15/2005 12:21:00 PM, Anonymous Tarek said...

Many thanks to the last anon for telling it like it is. And to Matt please drop the Mr. we're really informal here. Especially when it comes to the SSRP guy(s). Cause they call anyone who disagrees with them (i.e me) shitheads, humanscum and other sexy titles :D

To James Donalson - where do you get your info from?? Moscow & Tehran don't need anything from Damascus anymore? How about not becoming and American puppet for one? On the economic side; we do more business with Iran & Russia individually than with the US(which amounts to a pitiful few hundred million).


To S.R who " will be the presidential Advisor in 2007, and not a Fadel or Mahjoub, I will be the one with the word, the big man, the man with a plan.. I informed them that I won't accept the job unless I have authority."

Can you please define them?? is them visible or could them be the 7 dwarfs?

 
At 7/15/2005 12:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only dwarf I know here on this syriacomments.com is a small brained moron that eat a sausage and 2 meatballs for breakfast, and his name is Tarek.

 
At 7/15/2005 12:46:00 PM, Anonymous Clean up time said...

Yep, Tarek is what you get when an unemployed Lebanese IT guy, from a shantar hafana family, languishing in Europe on welfare with a dead end carrer and life, tries his Lebanese grudge politics on Syriacomment.com

 
At 7/15/2005 12:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is so fucking stupid, he must feel misplaced here or upstaged by ssprs members. Why not start lebanoncomment.com and get the fuck out of our face. You don't have the $8 bucks to register this site, will be happy to pay it for you, seriousely. www.godaddy,com got special $6.95 today.

 
At 7/15/2005 12:50:00 PM, Anonymous Dead end Careers.com said...

Surprise he is not employed by the CIA yet.

 
At 7/15/2005 12:51:00 PM, Anonymous Tarek said...

Nothing wrong with being Lebanese or working for an IT department. But I'm neither

 
At 7/15/2005 12:55:00 PM, Anonymous Orontes Corporation said...

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH. Fricking pisst today, I shorted Ym and the stuburn thing will not give out an inch. We could see 12K by November, if not higher.

Pluggin for Orontes too. This commnet being on blogger, which is part of google is really great.

Metaz

 
At 7/15/2005 01:01:00 PM, Anonymous Agha Metaz. said...

What is your case Tarek, do my members bother you, why you and other fuckers are bothering them. We post some front running comments in here and push the envelope, all you do is put our members down and nag and bitch like what Lebanese always good at doing.

Where are you from in Lebanon? being a member of the Aldendeshe family I hold both citizenships
and lived most of my life in Tripoli and studied in Beirut. My favorite time of my youth is in Lebanon and not in Syria, I love Lebanon but I don't understand who the hell you are and what do you want, Stop bothering SSPRS member will ya.

 
At 7/15/2005 01:04:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Him and that Jew /Israeli Darfurt.

 
At 7/15/2005 01:07:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz said...

I can swear on the holiest thing in this universe, my cat poop, that his earlier post or anotehr moran like him, he said he is Lebanese. Guys, I know it is Friday, check it out, see if you can find it.

 
At 7/15/2005 01:08:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

"Him and that Jew / Israeli Darfurt"?

Shame on you!

Shame on this inhuman level you still are proud of. You stayed anonymous so we can't respond proper;y to you, but you are a scum.

Mohammed, Alawi born

 
At 7/15/2005 01:14:00 PM, Anonymous Tarek said...

Well i can spare you the time, you're mistaken. I am from old Damascus "El 3ammara" But i also went to university in Beirut and it was a fantastic time.

And you racist pig i hope you die. By assuming that calling people Lebanese or Jewish is insulting only answers the question why i despise insignificant pricks like you.

 
At 7/15/2005 01:40:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

Okay, like I said, I remember either yourself or someonelse saying you are Lebanease. Beside the point. Please stop harrasing SSPRS members, they are serious and doing and important task for our NGO. They don't need this harrasment.

SSPRS is politically active NGO with plans, goals, strategy and the mean to accomplish all. All you do is talk under a name Tarek, you offer no solution, you peddle no cause and only criticize others. This is not what the people of Syria needs, Plenty of Critics around. They need paln and solution lets hear yours.

 
At 7/15/2005 01:44:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz said...

To Mohammed,
Appreciate your response on the other comment, wants to read it carefully in the evening. I don't get a chanse to talk or hear Alawi's feedback. Wish more Alwites will come on board and talk their view here.

 
At 7/15/2005 02:06:00 PM, Anonymous One Disobedient Mother Fucker said...

All the fools who are counting on the U.S. CIA support, and Aliens along with God to free them from Assad better learn how to kish dibban real fast, it may be a good waste of fuckinf time.

I am the one and only disobedyent motherfucker you'll ever know.. I don't care if people die. People are killing eachother for 10 bucks, how about freedom ?

I have no problem taking it to the street, I have no problem knforming the masses in Syria that THERE IS something called freedom. I want them to say Bashar looks like a Giraffe right infront of Abu Fahd Shawerma Stand.

I don't wana come here to bash for no reason. But lazy ass motherfuckers need to do something or sit back and pretend like you know politics. And to all SSRP hopefulls, I am not joining your party my party is what all people should be in, the SSNP, the motherfucking homeland, the nation that all ya faggets forgot that America, where you are getting fucked in the ass right now, played a big role to make it less than 1 third of how big it was, and helped in making fools hate each other, and think we are too dumb to have elections.

There are two kinds of people, people who make things happen, people who watch things happen..most of you dumbass obedyant motherfuckers don't know what the fuck happened or going to happen.

S.R. You are either on Crack, or have a wild imagination , both ways, I like your views. I see disobediant tendancies. Tell Bashar to ban all shah-shoes in the capital, those ugly shoes they turn into slipper!

 
At 7/15/2005 02:37:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

from 12.41 to 12.50 I saw 4 anti-Tarek messages coming from different nicks.

User your real nick. Unless your ashamed by ur comments.

 
At 7/15/2005 03:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck off Vox Populi, What the fuck you think this is, Volaire Salon, fuck you.

 
At 7/15/2005 03:44:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yessssssssss here is one more for you Vox piece of shit and your buddy Tarek. Fuck you, We are trying to free 18 million Syrians against all odd and this shit is concerned about etiquets. Whatever you spell the crap.

 
At 7/15/2005 03:47:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need few more Disobedient mother fuckers in here. HEHEHEHEHE, I doubt morans like Tarek and Vox Poopi are the one will giving freedom to the Syrians,
one will give you a head and the other will poop in your pants.

 
At 7/15/2005 04:09:00 PM, Anonymous SSPRS said...

Tahia Souria, welcome SSNP member. First why don't you try to free SSNP from Baathist / Left wing control. Stop being stooges to the Baath party. When you free SSNP and you are ready to stand on your own, SSPRS will stand by you and help you. Take my advise and leave the Iraqi, Jordanian out, these bedouins will drag our nationaq back big time, and Southern Syria, so called Israel for you, do you really want to manage 12 tribes of maroding Bedouin Jews. Forget it, that is why at SSPRS we only care about Syria and Lebanon, this is the cream of crop. Let the American deal with the bedouin tribes, we will find good freind with Blond Blue Eyed Slavs in Russia and Ukraine.

 
At 7/15/2005 04:21:00 PM, Anonymous SSPRS said...

At 2:16 AM, Tarek said...
I know people are bored since there was no new post yesterday. But please ignore the SRP topic. I am sure its member(s) would love that discussion on their website's blog. I know its under construction(forver) among every other link that needs significant IT support, but maybe that could change very soon and we can have some peace to discuss real issues here.


Drop dead idiot. kill yourseld out of anger. We never want spies on our website, that is why we keep it very simple and low tech by design. We have already Identified the spies in here out of this low tech website.

Additionally we concluded not to have a blog for now, security concerns and keeping scums like you from posting. We are going to have moderated discussion posted and all comments will be approved by our team before posting. So break a leg or better yet all Four of them. Have a bad weekend scum.

 
At 7/15/2005 05:00:00 PM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Guys,
Easy on Tarek; he is not the bad guy. I am myself of Lebanese origin, but I grew up in Aleppo and went to Damascus University.
Using below the belt insults does not advance anything. Also, I am unsure about the differences between SRP and SSPRS, but I am very familiar with SSNP.
PS: Tarek, you have not posted on Angry Arab in a while. There are several new trolls to handle over there. Peace to all.

 
At 7/15/2005 06:20:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

to 3:41

If idiots like u r in charge of liberating syria, you're in deep shit my friend.

 
At 7/15/2005 07:08:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Vox:

You are using his language too.

I wrote you in another thread replying to your crazy suggestion for so called "federalism" in that tiny place of Syria that has 300 different ethnic groups, and languages. Remember Syria used to be the example to the whole, before the Baathists took over, for peaceful coexistence that amounted to real love between all of the people in Syria at the time, and we used to laugh at the Lebanese for confessional system, so your stupid suggesstion adding to it, your opening of a new site to discuss and promote this issue is crazy, surely.

Syrians will again live in harmony once Justice prevails again. It is the Sorrupt Justice System that is the cause for all the problems, sectarians or otherwise in Syria. Fix it, and you fix Syria.

Mohammed, (the Allawi fyi).

 
At 7/15/2005 07:10:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

Syria used to be the example to the whole world for ethnic integration.

 
At 7/15/2005 07:12:00 PM, Anonymous metaz agha said...

It doesnt matter what you all say on here. I will take over Syria soon and then also take over Lebanon and then the other parts of True Syria. And then you will all be sorry. I will form the new Syrian Army with the ultramodern technology from www.orontes.net and will show the Syrian People that they return to their True Language - ARAMAIC. Anyone believing in Islam or "Christianity" or Jewishness must leave. I will make defense association with Iran and Russia. All public signs and publications will be in Aramaic and Russian. All secretaries in the government administration must be Russian blondes.

Syria will be the most developed country on the planet. Everybody will ask me how I did it, but I will not tell them. First they have to acknowledge that my Za'im - "Republican" System is the best in the world. And they have to say that in perfect Aramaic. If they cannot say it correctly I will not give them the technology for my "Orontes Hybrid Electric Power Generator" and if they threaten MY Syria, then I will wheel out my own "GERONIMO - Orontes Network Centric Warfare System" together with my "SHAMASH - Autonomous Unmanned Aerial Attack vehicle" (which uses "Orontes Exclusive Intelligent Reasoning, Intelligent Thinking and Intelligent Command Self-Execution") and if, after ALL THAT, they still don't have enough, then I shall hit them with my "ALBION - Directed Energy Beam (Death Ray)"!!!

Everybody who does not accept my superiority - YOU MUST DIE!!!

 
At 7/15/2005 07:15:00 PM, Anonymous metaz agha said...

And I forgot to add: Everything I say here is SECRET. You are not allowed to look at www.orontes.net OR www.ssprs.com!!!

But I will monitor everyone of you - wherever you are, wherever you go, whatever you say or even THINK!!!

I have my experts everywhere. They are better than the CIA, Mossad, MI6, DST, and all Mukhabarat COMBINED!!!

 
At 7/15/2005 07:17:00 PM, Anonymous metaz aldendeshe agha said...

If you think I am joking - you can visit my secret factory

536 Sable, Rancho Santa Margarita, 92688, California, United States

or call 1 949 709-5945 or fax 1 309 419-9716

I WILL SHOW YOU AND YOU WILL TREMBLE IN FEAR!!!

 
At 7/15/2005 08:09:00 PM, Anonymous Mohammed said...

hahaha

I agree with the first part. I wish.

Then, you are really crazy, but that will work. The old testatment is made of such a language, and it instilled a deep bond and hope in the Jewish people though I doubt any of it was true, but psychologically speaking, it worked , and it worked before all of the newest discovery in psychology and sociology. We assumed that people of the past were ignorant of such sciences, but apparently they were even more advanced in such a field than we are right now.

So, go on. I will allow you to spread your dream.

Arameic is ok with me. My ancestors were probably Phoenicians, and I don't even know what language they must have spoken, like if I give a damn.

Mohammed, The Alawi

 
At 7/15/2005 11:00:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

To Joshua Landis and University of Oklahoma,

I never typed any of the above comments and since the above information about address and contact information is accurate but old, not working and belong to a one time Russian girl friend of mine who currently live in Moscow, being secret and not given to no one in the past I will assume that it is given by the Israeli or American who are spying on me weather in official or non official capacity. Josh and University of Oklahoma, I strongly recommend making acomplaint to the FBI about these Private Personal address postings as current resident at that location could be subjected to harrasment and danger. I have secured the possible person that was doing this and will be reporting him, his method of Spying and Company to the FBI on Tuesday. A lawyer will be maintained to prosecute this case.
My contact information is as follow:
SIPO
236 S. RAINBOW bLVD.
#324
Las Vegas, NV 89145
Electronic Fax # 1-309-419-9716

 
At 7/15/2005 11:13:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

I will have our Attorney contact the Real Estate managment of the listed property to make current occupants aware of the possible danger and harrasment they will be faced. He may also take additional measures on his/her own.

 
At 7/15/2005 11:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahahaha

Syrians always think they are the most important in the world.

Do not worry, people took it as a joke, and no would have been interested in the information, so don't become paranoid.

I will send you a couple of high paid lawyers to help you. Just be kind to them, and don't act big or bluff them, for they will take it as an insult. Just be yourself; Small.

 
At 7/15/2005 11:38:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

To Mohammed,
I never posted any of the above comments. We have been subjected to espionage by Israeli since 2000.
The FBI arrested over 50 Mossad agents in the past that we know of. Possibly much more. Not sure who was making the latest espionage that I have been carefully monitoring I ruled out Syrians, that will leave me with the U.S., French or Israeli either in private or official capacity.
Did setup a sting in the past week on this comment and today we have identified the individual, we think. Will leave that to the FBI to complet the job after we report him on Tuesday.

I do appreciate your remarks anyway, it shows that even an Alawite Syrian will back me up and
today we both can see who is really in panic to the point they will think that will post 4 years old information that will leave those same Israeli or American that we are suspected.

Again thank you for the support you exhibited regardless of the fact that I did not even write it.

I am touched and made me the more determined. By the way, I agree with whoever typed those comments, not a bad plan. Except I may add few more item to this suggested plan. Like you I WISH. Hehehehe.

 
At 7/15/2005 11:40:00 PM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

We are the most important nation in the world, read your BIBLE.

I know who you are and you will be reported to the FBI on Tuseday.

 
At 7/16/2005 12:34:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Josh, looks like your blog has become a playing ground for lunatics

 
At 7/16/2005 01:26:00 AM, Anonymous Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe said...

You made too many mistakes and tripped on our sting. You are right we do have a lunetic that will be joining J.pollard and the other Israeli Americans like him in prison for 20 years.

 
At 7/16/2005 02:29:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

Dear Mr. Landis,

It came to our attention this evening that old and outdated contact information for Metaz K.M. Aldendeshe girlfriend were published by unauthorized person on your syriacomments.com site under the heading: “A second Chance In Syria”.

Additionally the anonymous person published those comments purported to be under Metaz as a user name.

There are two legal issues that will warrant the removal of the comments or the entire page if the comments in question could not be removed independently.

1- The listing of secret contact information including residence, telephone and fax number by this individual are illegal and constitute a criminal offense under U.S. Privacy laws. This also was done in order to cause fear, intimidation, blackmail and harm including an invitation to cause deadly injury and death. Each and all constitutes a criminal offense under U.S. Code.

2- Additionally, it could subject you personally and Oklahoma University to liabilities, in the event of any harassment or injury were to be made to current occupants who are not related to Metaz in any way, or destruction of property.

3-Also we are disturbed by the publication of this information that can be obtained only by espionage. It’s publication give us ample clues about the perpetrator.

4- The fraudulent use of Metaz name and his website as the source of these comments constitute fraudulent crime under various U.S. laws

Therefore we demand that these comment be removed forthwith.

Your cooperation in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Best regards


M. Cramer,
Web-Media director.

 
At 7/16/2005 03:19:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The address provided above is NOT A SECRET. Just google "Orontes Corporation" and klick on the FIRST link. It will lead you to:

http://www.alibaba-online.com/trade/company/goto/10013568.html

This is a public entry in a public business listing and if you no longer wish to be contacted under that address or if someone else lives there now then CHANGE THE ENTRY IN THE LISTING.

 
At 7/16/2005 03:23:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the hell was that all about?? this blog has developed into a space for morans, daydreamers and attentions seekers!!

 
At 7/16/2005 03:43:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

What a moron, get a life idiot, We still got a bunch of data on you
and your illegal activities.

1- Aditionally you posted this data in order to defame, cause fear, intimidation, blackmail and harm including an invitation to cause deadly injury and death. Each and all constitutes a criminal offense under U.S. Code.

2-The fraudulent use of Metaz name and his website as the source of these comments constitute fraudulent crime and identity theft under various U.S. laws

 
At 7/16/2005 04:04:00 AM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

BEWARE
The fraudulent use of a real person name and attributes constitute a Federal crime of identity theft under U.S. Laws. Additionally, you can be held liable for defamation of Character, illegally profiting by using a name, real, Trade name or trademark without a license. There are additional crimes and liabilities for using a real name without power of Attorney or License under the Commercial and Interstate laws.

The fraudulent use of a U.S. Corporation or organization (for profit or non profit)
Is a Federal crime. You could be held liable for loss of sales, loss of profit, loss of business good will among many other liabilities and criminal charges.

 
At 7/16/2005 06:52:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm trying to figure out who the hell is this dendeshe fellow and his so called SRP. Looks like someone with alot of free time and is seeking attention.. Probably needs to consult a shrink! dude, get yourself a life

 
At 7/16/2005 07:02:00 AM, Anonymous Tarek said...

Haven't i been saying all along that this guy is crazy? well now you know. I suggest to ban the use of anonymous, lets all sign up for username and unique blogger name so clear the confusion.

To Kingcrane - I checked out Angry Arab and i can assure you that i have never posted there. I usually post only Here and sometimes on http://beirut2bayside.blogspot.com/just to critsize Tony

 
At 7/16/2005 07:41:00 AM, Anonymous sebastian d'arfourt said...

even blocking anonymous won't work - if it changes to "registered bloggers only" then metaz ssrps agha al-dandashi will also register (under 10 different names probably) and continue his "activity"...

this is something we'll have to live with. interesting enough - this is the ONLY site where he has ever posted. oh well... there ARE worse things/people than that/him -- the ba'th regime, for example...

what i do find interesting is that on the ssprs/srp website they seem to love iran & russia - almost makes you think the whole thing is set up by some syrian ba'th mukhabarat people... ;)

it is also interesting that on the website & metaz' "personal pages" it's all about "representing all ethnic and religious groups in syria" and so on - yet here he & the other ssrps/srp people (hey - maybe it IS only one person!) are constantly denigrating others on the base of religion or ethnicity. according to them, muslims and christians are blind followers of a wrong religion, jews are enemies, allawites are scum, etc.pp.

does anyone else see a contradiction, too???

and if this forum is so bad/stupic/wrong etc.pp. (after all, josh is supposed to be a "bad guy") then why would metaz ssrps/srp al-dandashi agha keep posting here?

in the end, it would be truly hilarious if the whole "metaz/ssrps" thing is just some student's sociology experiment for a seniors thesis...

and by the way, mr. orontes corporation - using an audi tt on your frontpage IS illegal -- and i'm sure that Audi Inc. will not particularly like to be used for your "aircompression engine" scam...

on that note - when last week the ssrps "secretary" said that most of the posts under your name were actually NOT from you since "he is on holiday" you didn't threaten anyone with the FBI... what's so different now? are you afraid that someone would knock on your door? maybe Homeland Security, checking your involvement with a political organization that may very likely be supported by the Islamic Republic of Iran - in the eyes of the U.S. Gov't one of the main sponsors of terrorism...

 
At 7/16/2005 10:14:00 AM, Anonymous SSPRS said...

Bark, we got your IP addresses from Google. You think you morans are above the law.

 
At 7/16/2005 11:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am one of your supporters, SSRP. I teach Telecom and Computer Sciences at TEXAS A&M Univ, and I do not know how to trace a post here doing Google search.

Please elaborate.
Thank you
Dr. B. D. M.

 
At 7/16/2005 12:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's because there is *no such thing* as tracing somebody's IP address using Google--even if there were, it wouldn't matter, because Blogger doesn't register IP addresses when it posts comments.

it is possible for metaz to monitor IP addresses when people visit his website, but even then, it doesn't really do much good, considering that most people are using dynamic IP addresses, or using an internet cafe.

the FBI or CIA could do some kind of checking like this, but it seems that the SSPRS has thrown in with the Iranians and North Koreans, so as enemies of the US govt, this avenue is closed to them.

ultimately, it's just a bunch of b.s. Sebastian, I think you are correct when you say it's some sort of prank.

 
At 7/16/2005 12:48:00 PM, Anonymous Syrian Republican Party said...

Keep on putting other people and other countries down. This is what failures do best.

You can not delete server logs, Google or otherwise. We have a legal process that will make these logs available. Time comparison of log files from Bloger server will give away the morons IP addresses.

But we don't waste our time with this crap, it takes 30-50 days for this process. We have on our website the tools necessary despite the fact that we know it has been accessed by others. It can not be deleted.

If you are not a governmental agency of the United State Government or any agency of State Law enforcement, one that is authorized to post and sanctioned to engage in this illegal and fraudulent activities that is in violation of U.S. laws, you will be morons to ruin your life and the life of your family and loved one over simple crap play like this.

You want to play, try a vibrator on a girlfriend if any of you ever had one in your life.
Otherwise, SSPRS assumes that you are either working on official orders of the U.S. Authorities or you are unauthorized freelance agents working for foreign governments against the interest of the United State Commercial and other interests. That is where the profiling come in to the picture. We leave the officials to monitor whatever they want and had given written statement to that effect. Otherwise you will be reported to ANSIR Coordinator about any suspicious log files and other suspected activities.

This maybe a joke for you, it is a criminal offense to us.

 
At 7/16/2005 01:00:00 PM, Anonymous SSPRS said...

To the Dr.

Internet cafe keep time and machine log file. There are other I.D. information matched to those files. Dynamic IP are not always dynamic, in fact rarely automatically they change and even if the did there is a server log and track files that could not be deleted.

You do not need law enforcement to release any of these positive identification tools. A small claim law suit in Municipal court for $26 claiming $1 damages will allow the filer to request an injunction against any server host to release this data. Only the United State Government can claim sovereignty and not be found in contempt of court.

Stop playing. You seen what happened to the Israelis last month in London and hundreds more languish in U.S. Prisons.

This is not a joke and no one is above the law. This is the United State of America, not Lebanon and not Syria you playing in.

 
At 7/16/2005 01:41:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dandashe, you have one hell of an imagination! use it and write fiction books, you never know you could make more money than the potter story!
IP address, i can say find it and stick up your ***

 
At 7/16/2005 01:53:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No the Agha will stick it in ANSIR mail box.

 
At 7/16/2005 01:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We got it last night

 
At 7/16/2005 02:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some one of the SSPR told me that my IP address is: 287.657.345.23. I just wonder what that meant, and whether I can change it now that they know it?

Some one please give me a lecture. Thank you so much.

Dr. Bashar Assad.
Pioneer in the Internet Technology, and Western Educated President of a country. 1 year 7 months in Britain that taught me so much about every thing.

May God bless the United Kingdom!

 
At 7/16/2005 02:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Note: My kids are also British, even British born, so their passports would show them as pure British. We are all intelligent in my family and my great wife's family (who told me to have my son Hafez (future president) that he should be a pure British citizen, because no one can guarantee the future in Syria.

God bless Asmaa's my mute wife.

Akhras=mute for those who do not have the Western Education of the Arab readers.

 
At 7/16/2005 02:35:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many people of Homs, where my wife was born (before she ran away from Syria with her parents) started cutting their tongues to become Akhras (mute) after she decided to marry me. This is how the people of that country I inheritted feel about us.

God bless Great Britian!

 
At 7/16/2005 02:43:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which god you are sking to bless the U.K. what is his name? Where doe he live and why he does not bless other nations, Is he the same god as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, that god blessed those country very well.

 
At 7/16/2005 02:45:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He made a typo, he was asking dog to bless Minor Britain

 
At 7/17/2005 12:44:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

dendeshe, we really appretiate the comic relief you just made in the SRP fiction story..it was cool after the exciting energy, fbi, esponiage and conspiracy stories..keep the good work!!

 
At 7/18/2005 08:03:00 AM, Anonymous kingcrane said...

Tarek,
Never mind; there are two Tarek bloggers on Angry Arab. One is a plain Tarek, the other is called Tarek Hariri. Both are anti-neo-conservatives, like you.

 
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