Sunday, February 05, 2006

Burning Embassies: an Eye Witness Account by Nate Abercrombie

On Saturday, February 4, demonstrators in Damascus burnt down the Danish embassy. As Nate Abercromie explains below, "the building was actually three embassies in one; 1st floor Chili, 2nd floor Denmark, and 3rd floor Sweden. Although the Danish floor was destroyed, the other two sustained much damage. It was done on the weekend so no one was in the building. The Norwegian embassy was also burnt and then demonstrators made their way to the American embassy, where they were driven off by police, and to the French embassy, were they were also driven off. One Western diplomat complained:

"It took a long time before they put in all their force; it took hours before they all came," a Western diplomat said by phone from Damascus. "It's strange that it could go so out of hand. You know what kind of state this is, so if something goes out of hand, it's strange."
Washington has condemned Syria for the violence. Sunday, mobs set fire to Beirut's Danish embassy. Some argue the rioting in Beirut was planned, as well. Michael Young has a thoughtful article, explaining how the situation may have gotten out of hand - permitted by Hariri's team, but lost to fundamentalist groups from the "north of Lebanon," who do not answer to Hariri. Something like this most likely happened in Syria. For a year now, Syrian authorities have been trying to organize and encourage anti-Western demonstrations to show outrage at the Hariri investigation and US sanctions. Along comes the Danish cartoon imbroglio which can be harnessed by the government to add some zip and zing to demos with no fizz, but oops - Muslims have a mind of their own. The Hamas situation only adds oil to the fire. People are genuinely angry over a host of perceived or actual Western slights.

raf* bey, the levantese, has two good articles: the first one is called Background story to the "Danish cartoons" issue - and commentary and the second one Why do the Syrians burn embassies but the Iranians don't?.

Following the Demonstrators in Damascus
The Danish Embassy and Beyond
by Nate Abercrombie in Damascus
February 4, 2006

Several friends were meeting at my house when one of us received a text message stating that the Danish Embassy had been set on fire. We immediately turned on the television to see what had transpired. After trying several channels, we finally found some brief footage of a small fire that had been made on embassy grounds which had ultimately resulted on the building catching fire. Wanting to see the damage first hand, we left my apartment for the district of Abu Rumani.

The streets on the way to the embassy were calm and there wasn’t any sign of disorder. The street in front of the Danish Embassy was a different story. It bore the marks of a peaceful demonstration gone awry. Trash was strewn all over the ground. A small group of men still lingered in front of the burnt embassy amongst the still standing water from the fire trucks. A line of about 30 riot police remained in place awaiting another emotional surge from the men yelling, “Allahu Akbar.” Some of the demonstrators would intermittently sit and pray while the rest walked in circles with green banners proclaiming God’s greatness.

My friends and I lingered for a few moments and were surprised to find a few Danish friends arrive with firsthand experience of the blaze. They told us that the street in front of the embassy building (the building was actually three embassies in one; 1st floor Chili, 2nd floor Denmark, and 3rd floor Sweden) was filled with thousands of demonstrators. They claimed that, even though the fire had already been started, the demonstration didn’t actually get out of hand until the news cameras arrived at which point people entered the building emptying it of papers and a few pieces of furniture.

After a quarter of an hour, I had decided that I had had my fair share of excitement for the evening and headed home. Half way to Rawda Square, I found another group of men followed by a small number of women all carrying posters and banners and walking towards the American Embassy. I ran to the front and took some pictures and was greeted by smiling fathers with children on their shoulders who wanted pictures taken of their children yelling, “Allahu Akbar” while carrying anti-Danish posters. What I didn’t realize was that this small group of demonstrators was only one of many that were coming from different from different streets from districts of Damascus intending on demonstrating in front of the American Embassy, for which reason I have no clue.

Rawda Square, one of the larger squares in Damascus, rests just below the American Embassy. The square was filled with fire trucks and at least a hundred riot police. It didn’t take long for the entire square to be filled with thousands of demonstrators all yelling the same phrase, “Allahu Akbar.” As soon as I began taking pictures, the crowd circled around me all wanting to be photographed with their various posters, banners, and burnt Danish flags that were repeatedly thrown to the ground and stomped.

What surprised me most were the men with hand-held radios directing the rioters. When a sizeable crowd had gathered in Rawda Square, these men ran around yelling, “Rooh a’ a-Safara Francieh.” I wasn’t sure if this was just an attempt to lessen the threat to the American Embassy or an attempt to increase the threat to the French Embassy. I followed the masses to the French Embassy to find a similar sight only to a lesser extent. There were a lot of fire trucks and several dozen riot police. The only difference was the attitudes of the people. Emotion and adrenaline running high, people began to push and shove. A small fire was set not but twenty meters away from the French Embassy, but was quickly extinguished by a fireman.

Riot police in civilian clothing were carrying wooden sticks and billy-clubs and swung at whoever raised their voice to cheer on the demonstrators. I observed three men being beaten before being carried of to some unknown location. A voice from the minaret from the mosque just below the French Embassy began pleading with the people. My only regret of the evening was not understand what was being said…was the voice was persuading the people to stop or inciting further discontent.

It was quite clear that as the night went on the authorities became more concerned with even the smallest crowds of people. But, I couldn’t help wondering if the authorities were working against each other. Why were the men with hand-held radios directing the demonstrators? Why weren’t greater precautionary measures taken before demonstrators arrived at embassies, especially in the case of the Danish Embassy? It was only later that I learned the Norwegian Embassy had been burned as well. But everyone on the street knew that a large group of demonstrators was headed towards Mezzeh long before they ever arrived.


At 2/06/2006 01:24:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

According to the article, there seemed to be two 'authorities' directing the mob: one calling the shots, and the other firing the shots and tear gas.

Could a 3rd side, such as an intelligence service, al-Qaeda, or whatever be involved, trying to embarass the Syrians? or is the Syrian government that stupid as to set the stage for the Beirut violence, which turned sectarian and religious, trying to incite a new civil war?

At 2/06/2006 01:50:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...




Throughout the Middle East the chaos continues. Over cartoons. OVER CARTOONS! How did we reach such a state of idiocy? Apparently a Danish author couldn’t get anyone to illustrate his book about Mohammed. The Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten thought this sort of self-censorship regarding Islam in Denmark was rather unhealthy to the concept of free speech and asked twelve cartoonists to draw the prophet for them. It could have ended there but the Islamic Society in Denmark decided to stir things up and organized a tour of the Middle East to bring awareness of the cartoons to the Muslim street. Since the original twelve were not offensive enough they added three other fake cartoons which were not published anywhere and must have been drawn by ISD with the sole purpose of sufficiently offending Muslims to garner the rage they wanted. The first of the three additional and poorly drawn pictures shows Mohammad as a pedophile demon. The second shows Mohammed with a pig snout. The third depicts a praying Muslim being raped by a dog.

Certainly anything that takes the public’s awareness away from domestic conditions such as poverty, corruption, and tyranny and refocuses that awareness on some external threat that will stoke nationalist or religious pride is helpful to the regimes that wish to shift said awareness. That would explain the actions of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and others but the ISD seems to have started this for the sole purpose of starting this. The cartoons would have been quickly forgotten, instead they are now all over the net and many millions that would not have seen them are now fully focused on them. In reaction to the reaction Korans are now being burned and other desecrations of what Muslims hold sacred are being done. Is this what they wanted? Given the reaction to the fake story of Korans being flushed you have to think they knew how the Muslim street would react to this. They, and those others that pushed this story and called for this reaction wanted this. This is further evidenced by the fact that where the protest are being held there are lots of Danish flags ready to be burned. Obviously some logistical planning was involved, as Charles Moore points out.
It's some time since I visited Palestine, so I may be out of date, but I don't remember seeing many Danish flags on sale there. Not much demand, I suppose. I raise the question because, as soon as the row about the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed in Jyllands-Posten broke, angry Muslims popped up in Gaza City, and many other places, well supplied with Danish flags ready to burn.
If you think this isn’t a free speech issue think again. Jordan had an editor arrested for reprinting the cartoons. Norwegian Muslims are pushing for anti-blasphemy laws. The EU is looking to fix criminal penalties for racial or religious hatred.

Lest you think all Middle Easterners are insane here is what I’m hearing from some of their blogs:

Omid Paydar at Free Thoughts on Iran
Muslims may succeed to force non-Muslims (or even enlightened Muslims) in not offending their religion by threatening them with assassinations, bombs and bullets, but increasingly they have a harder time to sell Islam as a religion of peace and tolerance. In fact sincere respect is rarely gained through intimidation.
Ammar Abdulhamid at Amarji
Syria’s back in the headlines again, indeed, something is unraveling there. But what is it exactly? Is it the regime? Is it the opposition? Or is the entire country unraveling?

But then, perhaps we are all unraveling, all to the enjoyment of our viewers all over the world. Hey Bob, here goes the freaking region again. Don’t those people ever get tired of being mad?

Well, I guess not. We wouldn’t be true to form if we did. Besides, there is a certain intriguing, if not downright bewitching, quality to our madness that keeps the entire world fixated upon us, and we’d just die, not to mention kill, to remain the center of global attention. In some crazy way, but not so counterintuitive really, this does justify our “faith.” When you are chosen, it does not matter in the least for which you are chosen: blessedness or damnation, so long as you are chosen.
The Religious Policeman lampoons the Royals:
From: Royal Press Secretary
To: His Majesty
Date: 4th February 2006

Subject: Cartoons

I was perhaps too pessimistic at the end of my previous memo. Things have in fact turned out better than we might have expected.

As I reported, a number of other European newspapers did publish the cartoons. In two of those cases, the owners of those papers sacked the offending editors, thus demonstrating that jobs are at risk when we Muslims are offended! This, I am sure, is a lesson that will not have been lost on other editors. It is noticeable now that with a few striking exceptions, such as those very aggressive Germans, newspapers and broadcasters are very reluctant to show them further, and they appear not to have been shown at all in the USA.

What is also very gratifying is that officials in the West are not only accepting our right to be offended at whatever we choose, but they are also saying that the Western media should work to our standards, not theirs. It is striking how soon they forget about their self-professed "freedoms" when they witness a little righteous Muslim anger.
From Dailykos of all places comes confirmation that this is all a Saudi plot!

Sandmonkey wonders how future history books will describe the coming conflict.
A terrorist dirty bomb attack in France by Syrian terrorists prompted French President Chirac to actually "scratch that itch" and nuke Syria as he threatened with "za fwench newcleaar bombe", which enraged all the Muslim countries, led to huge unrest and revolutions, and brought to power the craziest elements the Muslim fanatic camp has to offer. Wasting no time, they declared full Jihad on Europe, and started what has become known the Western-Islamic Cartoon war."

How stupid would THAT be? I bet the kids will laugh their asses off during History class. That is, of course, if such a war left any survivors at all.
Haitham Sabbah at Sabbah's Blog wonders where this will end:
Okay. This is how the Arab/Muslim world looks like today. Hot-hearted!
Does it look good? I’m afraid not. The question is; where are we heading to? I just wish to hear one unified ‘list of demands’ so that one can follow up to see how this unrest will calm down.

Unfortunately, I can’t see any. Islamic leaders and clerics are just calling for protests and boycotting products of this country and that one. Some also say apology will be enough, other say no apology will be accepted. But, where does this end, how will this stop, and what is an acceptable solution? I’m afraid I don’t know.

At 2/06/2006 01:56:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said... ...rtoon.beirut.ap

At 2/06/2006 02:21:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

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At 2/06/2006 02:23:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

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At 2/06/2006 02:24:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

have a request to the Jylland-Posten:

Please publish cartoons of the queen of Denmark under a horse, while a bubble coming out of her mouth says: "I fully support freedom of speech".

Or this: the queen of Denmark talking to her prime minister:
Rasmussen: "what's your schedule today, your majesty?"
Queen: I'm meeting with a bunch of niggers from somalia, then some kikes from Israel, and finally those sand-niggers from Saudi Arabia want to buy our useless crap. Great day.

or just publish a cartoon of Martin Luther King with the caption: "Nigger".

Where's your so-called Freedom of Expression now????

At 2/06/2006 02:26:00 AM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


Michael's post is very good, but you should read it more carefully.

Young didn't say that the FM sided with the rioters (this is how you make it sound). He said that it was possible that Sabah didn't send too much men because he didn't want the repression to be too strong. Michael Young specifically said that his theory was only a theory.

According to Young, it simply didn't occur to the FM that things could get out of hand. He didn't expect a Syrian 'move' on this: 2/3 of the arrested men were Syrians and Palestinians. Why are these people demonstrating in Lebanon?

At 2/06/2006 03:04:00 AM, Blogger Dr Victorino de la Vega said...

It should be clear by now that Lebanese Prime minister Fuad Saniura and majority leader MP Saad Al-Hariri are Wahhabi wolfes in pseudo-modernist clothes: they wear clean-cut ties and suits but, deep inside, they’re just like the Taleban- or even worse for that matter.

Hariri and Saniura were actually both seen several times (on Saudi Arabia’s Channel 1 TV) attending Friday prayer services at Jeddah’s Central Mosque, where the residing Hambali preacher regularly calls for the “extermination of idolatrous Shiite and Christian dogs” or “Tassfiyatt al kilâb al mushrikeen al matâweelah wal-nasârah” in Saudi parlance!

As long as they don’t RENOUNCE PUBLICLY (preferably on Saudi TV) the intolerance and perversions of Wahhabi theocratic fascism, the leaders of Lebanon’s ruling Future party will remain under suspicion in the West and in Lebanon itself.

Opposition leader Gen. Michel Aoun is right to say that the gullible March 14 dupes are shooting on the wrong target: they focus their ire on hapless/impotent figures such as president Lahoud and a weakened Syrian regime on the brink of collapse, which is no threat to Lebanon’s sovereignty anymore…while blindly ignoring the mounting threat posed by the totalitarian Islamist regime of Saudi Arabia and its Harirista “Imam corner”.

Today, the Lebanese public has finally seen the true face of Saad Al-Hariri’s commercialist brand of Wahhabism-Lite based on Riyadh’s violent neo-medieval interpretation of Koranic Law, and backed by corrupt Western leaders such as Dick Cheney and Jacques Chirac…

The burning of the Danish consulate and ensuing invasion (there’s no other word I’m afraid) of East Beirut’s upscale Achrafiyeh district by hordes of rampaging Saudi-sponsored savages was only the “great rehearsal” of things to come, as Lenin used to say of the revolt of 1905.

At least we won’t have the luxury of claiming we were not warned in advance by the sadist disciples of Saudi “thinkers” Nasiruddin Al-Albani (born in Damascus), Abdul-Aziz Ibin Baz and other proponents of the final solution for Christians, Shiites and “secular dogs”…

See wiki entry below for more edifying info on Saudi Arabia’s leading “Grand” Mufti

Dr Victor de la Vega
Thomas More Center for Middle-East Studies

At 2/06/2006 04:20:00 AM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Dr Victor de la Vega

Interesting, when I was watching these mobs rampaging thru Chritian neighborhoods today, I also had a very strong feeling that this is a taste of 'things to come'. I highly doubt that the Syrians were behind this, and it's very telling that every security failure in Lebanon today is still being blamed on the Syrians.

Did Hizbullah have inside knowledge that something was awry? it withdrew from the demonstrations at the last minute, as if knowing that they were walking into a trap, a set-up to show the Shia of Lebanon as violent and uncontrollable?

At 2/06/2006 06:51:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

A Mountain Out of a Molehill Over Danish Cartoons
By Mona Eltahawy

Can we finally admit that Muslims have blown out of all proportion their outrage over 12 cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammad published in a Danish newspaper last September?

In the latest twist, both the Organization for the Islamic Conference and the Gulf Cooperation Council condemned a Norwegian newspaper for reprinting the drawings - a decision the publication defended as protecting freedom of expression. Saudi Arabia recalled its ambassador from Denmark for “consultations” and Iraqis called in sermons and demonstrations for an investigation into the Danish and Norwegian publications that published the cartoons.

The initial printing of the cartoons in Denmark led to death threats being issued against the artists, demonstrations in Kashmir, and condemnation from 11 countries. What did any of this achieve but prove the original point of the newspaper's culture editor, that artists in Europe were censoring themselves because they feared Muslim reaction? He commissioned the cartoons after hearing that Danish artists were too scared to illustrate a children's book about the prophet.

While one cartoon was particularly offensive because it showed the prophet as wearing a turban with a bomb attached to it, a great deal of the anger had to do with the mere depiction of the prophet. Muslims seem to forget that just because they are prohibited from representing the prophet in any way, this does not apply to everybody else. Even with regards to the egregious cartoon showing the prophet with a bomb, Muslim reaction was exaggerated. This should have remained an internal Danish issue. Muslim groups in Denmark have been pursuing a legal course and have vowed to appeal a prosecutor's refusal to file charges against the newspaper.

Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen was right not to intervene, insisting the government has no say over media - the argument used by Arab leaders when they are asked about anti-Semitism in their media, by the way. But in a New Year's speech, Rasmussen condemned "any expression, action or indication that attempts to demonize groups of people on the basis of their religion or ethnic background."

What should have remained a local issue turned into a diplomatic uproar that Muslims otherwise rarely provoke when fighting for their rights around the world. Perhaps the Muslim governments who spearheaded the campaign - led by Egypt - felt this was an easy way to burnish their Islamic credentials at a time when domestic Islamists are stronger than they have been in many years.

Must we really boycott Danish products, as one e-mail I received exhorted? And why did an audience member at December’s Arab Thought Foundation conference in Dubai insist on delivering a lecture on the Danish cartoons, instead of focusing on the topic of the panel, namely Arab media and terrorism? Of all the issues that plague the Muslim world today, are our priorities cartoons published in a newspaper in a country inhabited by less than 6 million people? If we really want to pick a fight with the West, have we forgotten that 500 Muslim men continue to be detained without charge at the makeshift prison run by the United States at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, which last week marked its fourth anniversary?

The fracas over the cartoons is a sad testament to the impotence of the Muslim world. That clerics and leaders of Muslim countries gain any sense of power over this issue is a reminder of how powerless they really are and also a reminder, as if we needed one, of the moral bankruptcy of our self-appointed moral guides. It is no wonder that these same moral guides have gone on a power trip over cartoons – after all, clerics in Egypt have been arguing over whether married couples can be naked during sex.

In the midst of they hysteria over the cartoons, here are a few facts we should remember. However offensive any of the 12 cartoons were, they did not incite violence against Muslims. For an example of incitement, though, one must go back a few weeks before the cartoons were published. In August, the Danish authorities withdrew for three months the broadcasting license of a Copenhagen radio station after it called for the extermination of Muslims. Those were real threats and the government protected Muslims - the same government later condemned for not punishing the newspaper that published the cartoons.

Second, the cartoon incident belongs at the very center of the kind of debate that Muslims must have in the European countries where they live - particularly after the Madrid train bombings of 2003 and the London subway bombings of 2005. While right-wing anti-immigration groups whip up Islamophobia in Denmark, Muslim communities wallow in denial over the increasing role of their own extremists.

As just one example, last August Fadi Abdullatif, the spokesman for the Danish branch of the militant Hizb-ut-Tahrir organization, was charged with calling for the killing of members of the Danish government. He distributed leaflets calling on Muslims in Denmark to go to Fallujah in Iraq and fight the Americans, and to kill their own leaders if they obstructed them. Police in Denmark have been on alert since the London bombings, after which at least three extremist Web sites warned that Denmark could be the next target. There are 500 Danish troops working alongside American and British troops in Iraq.

Not only does Hizb-ut-Tahrir, an organization banned in many Muslim countries, have a branch in Denmark, but Abdullatif has a history of calling for violence that he then justifies by referring to freedom of speech - the very notion the Danish newspaper made use of to publish the cartoons. In October 2002, Abdullatif was found guilty of distributing racist propaganda after Hizb-ut-Tahrir handed out leaflets that made threats against Jews by citing verses from the Koran. He was given a 60-day suspended sentence.

Abdullatif used the Koran to justify incitement to violence! And we still wonder why people associate Islam with violence?

Muslims must honestly examine why there is such a huge gap between the way we imagine Islam and our prophet, and the way both are seen by others. Our offended sensibilities must not be limited to the Danish newspaper or the cartoonist, but to those like Fadi Abdullatif whose actions should be regarded as just as offensive to Islam and to our reverence for the prophet. Otherwise, we are all responsible for those Danish cartoons.

This article is based on a column initially published in English in Lebanon’s The Daily Star and in Arabic in Egypt’s al-Dostour. Mona Eltahawy is an Egyptian commentator. Her website is at

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At 2/06/2006 07:26:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Syria is playing dirty now. On Friday, demonstrators in Damascus set ablaze embassies of Denmark and Norway over a September 2005 publication of the caricatures in Jyllands-Posten. First time to hear of protests in Syria, this is a nice joke to begin the day. Syrians living under the oppressive regime of Al Assad are protesting, what an atmosphere of freedom! They are not of course protesting against the injustices of the regime but Denmark that published cartoons seven months ago for prophet Muhammed. Isn’t it a bit late? Let me tell you also that the Egyptian newspaper “Al Fagr”, which means Dawn in English, published the same cartoons a month ago and no one protested in Egypt.

On Sunday, in Lebanon, known to be a playground for the Syrian intelligence, protestors torched the Danish embassy in Beirut. Again, the fingerprints of Syria are clear. Over the past year, Syria executed a series of deadly attacks against anti-Syria Lebanese figures in Lebanon that took the lives of Former President Rafik Al Hariri and Journalist Samir Kasir.

Iran’s regime, Syria’s best friend, was differed to the U.N. Security Council on Saturday, so it is the perfect time to play dirty. When Lebanon asked for its independence, Syria killed former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafil Al Hariri. When Iraq won its freedom and now on its way to restore a democracy process, Syria started helping foreign insurgency through its borders on Iraq’s soil, so now it is to time to react in favor of Syria’s best friend, Iran, by trying to cause disability to Lebanon.

In Lebanon, on Sunday demonstrators did not torch the Danish embassy only but also armed with stones and sticks, damaged police and fire vehicles and threw stones at a Maronite Catholic church in the wealthy Ashrafieh area — a Christian neighborhood where the Danish Embassy is located. Is there an explanation for attacking Lebanese Christian citizens except that yesterday’s protests were meant for another ulterior motive?

The U.S. has been playing down the cartoons saga, but it stepped in on Sunday to warn Syria and hold it responsible for protecting the embassies.

The Syrian Dream is continuing…

At 2/06/2006 07:27:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Jerusalem Post in Israel and Philadelphia Inquierer in USA have also published the Danish cartoons.

At 2/06/2006 07:40:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

At 2/06/2006 07:41:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Nationalism Eternally said...

Those cartoons are just another attempt by Jews to start Moslem-Christian war and get the blame off thier shoulders for all the world misery they caused. Smart Syrians took it up and now after it is spinned to the max, will produce the evidence and turn the world back on the Jews as as usual the main sinister culprit.

At 2/06/2006 08:04:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

The dogs of Botswana streets has more dignity and honor than Arabs and Moslems.

As shown by the Abu Ghuraib Jewish torture camp, and the Prophet Mohammad PBUH cartoons. No matter how much humiliation and degradation thrown at the low life semi-humanoid. The Dogs of the shanty towns of Rio De Janeiro will have responded in anger. But not Arabs, they only react to to uncovered pussy images and the price of gold. Take that Four letters word out of the Syrian Republic name please

At 2/06/2006 08:06:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Here is an article in Arabic that agrees with me of the Syrian personality traits. Am I so glad I am not a Syrian!

The Syrian Personality, regime, oppositions, and so on

At 2/06/2006 08:10:00 AM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

Nothing wrong with demonstrations, except people are driven by emotion,not by their God given brain, they loose the ability of rational thinking, they behave destructive, and terroristic, the goverment must anticipate their danger, and should protect the embassies.
here we go again, increase gas and cement prices, is leading to inflation, all reports from Syria are clear, prices are up 15%, houses are up by more than 400,000 lira, land,and farms prices are up 60%, this mean also that very soon the dollar will jump to 64 lira for each dollar, increase wages are not going to match increase prices, the poor man and women will be the biggest looser, meanwhile, Bashar and Rami makhloof and their entourage are not suffering, they are increasing their profits, at the expense of people suffering, we must bring them to account.

At 2/06/2006 08:16:00 AM, Blogger I rather born Syrian or a dog said...


At 2/06/2006 09:04:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

"........Denmark’s Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said on Sunday his government could not act against satirical cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed after Libya closed its embassy in Copenhagen amid growing Muslim anger over the dispute...."

"....... The newspaper Jyllands-Posten had not intended to insult Muslims when it published the drawings,......."

Dane must think that all Moslems are like Saudi, Jordanian and Kuwaitis moslems, brainless dorks that have less intelligence that a bug. Sort of teh way Jews and Rumsfeld looks at them and treat them.



Curses the Moslem and Arab county that will keep one embassy open on its soil. Syrians and Lebanese acted approprietly.

At 2/06/2006 09:10:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

I look at all those Christian Cross covered DANE flags burning and then I look at all those Jewish inspired offensive, insulting, demeaning cartoons of the prophet Mohammad PBUH and I sing loud:

Burn Motherfucker Burn.

At 2/06/2006 09:15:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

All things are against Islam. All powers are against islam, and so many conspiracies exist against it. Islam is being attacked. here is one more proof. I am listing it, so may be Muslims will start to like me:


At 2/06/2006 09:18:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Just count how many nicks that person posting under "Syrian Republican Party" posts under, on this thread alone.

At 2/06/2006 09:39:00 AM, Blogger SSPRS Agent-Provocateur said...

We shall move the masses and out of the Chaos, A New Worl Order shall arise. Moreover, the art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbiage, by regulations of life in common, and all sorts of other quirks, in which the manipulated understands nothing, belongs likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain.

At 2/06/2006 09:54:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

That is a copy/past, and contains no intelligent argument by itself. If you wish to show your intelligence, show us a new "protocol'.

At 2/06/2006 10:04:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

I think Abu Guhraib Bayanooni and his Guattanamo Moslem Council memebrs in Washington should show thier true color and support to the DANE by cloacking a DANRE flag instead of this Moslem attire and emblems. Wonder wich Massonic agent, they get their orders from.

At 2/06/2006 10:11:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


Look at what the Muslim demons-trators were wearing, shouting as slogans, etc... This is the reality of Islam as portrayed by those who manifested in Britain for Islam.

التحريض على الارهاب

Long time go, I had predicted , when seeing how the West was opening its arms to the ugliest faces among Muslim to harbor in their cities and not only give assistance to them, but also to help them use the West's soil and all its freedom to florish in their demonic ideologies, I predicted the demise of the west as a result of harboring those forces. But, I also thought that the West was planning some thing very sinister by opening its doors wide open to such retadrded people with their demonic ideology.

Britain is now half retarded, thanks to its Muslim population.


At 2/06/2006 10:58:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

It was one of those unpredictable Lebanese Sunday mornings. The ski slopes in the mountains overlooking Beirut would have been crowded with skiers enjoying the brilliant winter sunshine. Walkers were out along the Corniche, strolling in designer tracksuits. Downtown, the chic restaurants were preparing for lunchtime. And there were a few men on scooters riding around town broadcasting an imminent protest.

It wasn’t long before the heavily-laden coaches and minivans began to arrive from Beirut and the rest of Lebanon. They were all full of young, often bearded men who wore headbands and carried identical flags with calligraphic inscriptions in Arabic such as: “There is no god but God and Mohammad is his Prophet” and “O Nation of Muhammad, Wake Up.”

There were soon as many as 20,000 of them filling the streets. They walked up past the Christian quarter of Gemmayze and into the even more genteel Christian area of Achrafieh, gathering not far from the Danish embassy, the target of their protest. One man waved a placard in English that said: “Damn your beliefs and your liberty.” Another carried a sign saying: “Whoever insults Prophet Muhammad is to be killed.”

The police seemed to know the demonstrators were coming and had turned out in force with barriers, barbed wire fences and several large fire trucks. Just a day earlier, the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Damascus had been torched by a furious mob, repeating the violent protests that have spread across the world from Gaza to Afghanistan to London. On Saturday night, anticipating trouble, the Danish diplomatic staff in Beirut flew home.

The mob stood in the street, chanting their fierce condemnation of the Danish cartoons that spawned this rapidly-spreading crisis. By 11am, the Lebanese police and army were firing tear gas at the crowd. The protesters threw volleys of stones. Some stuffed cotton wool into their nostrils to stifle the effect of the gas.

One group overturned a car and set it alight. Sunni clerics in robes tried to calm the young men down. They were ignored. One cleric, Ibrahim Ibrahim, said his pleas were met with stones and insults. “They are hooligans,” he said.

At 2/06/2006 11:01:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

The police finally withdrew and allowed the crowd to burn down the Danish embassy. Although they set the building alight, they had time and the forethought to bring a large banner to place on the building before it burnt down, announcing that the protestors were ready to offer their children in sacrifice to Mohammed. (That is a strange expression of human sacrifice for a monotheistic religion, but a theme that has become much more pronounced in radical Islam since the rise of Islamofascism thirty years ago. It's almost as if Islam got the story of Abraham and Isaac but missed the ending entirely.) That message delivered, the mob then went into the most affluent Christian neighborhood and began vandalizing property all along the way, smashing windows and damaging vehicles.

Suddenly, the protest stopped. The police and Islamic clerics couldn't stop it -- but one of the leaders announced that the demonstration was over and that the crowd needed to go home. And it did; the streets were cleared within minutes, leaving the area back in police control and the residents of the area to clean up after the violence. The protestors went back to the buses that brought them into the area, similar to tourists trying to attend a cultural event.

In fact, the tourist notion sounds like an apt analogy. This demonstration and the arson at the Danish embassy was nothing more than tourist-style outrage on behalf of radical Islamists. They have no real street following; instead, they have to bus their people into the area in order to get any attendace whatsoever, and their swath of destruction got as much planning as a three-star tour of the Holy Land. The only aspect missing was the color brochures and the timetables.

At 2/06/2006 11:11:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Irfan Yusuf, liberal Australian Muslim said: “Muslim countries are suffering problems taller than the tsunami waves that brought so much misery to hundreds of thousands of Muslims in Indonesia. Muslim women in various countries are being murdered by members of their own families for the sake of defending some false notion of “honour”. Millions of Muslims are living in poverty and disease in Pakistan following the devastating earthquake. Millions more are starving in refugee camps in Nigeria and other parts of Africa. Muslim-majority nations are riddled with corruption. Their leaders are squandering resources and wealth while their citizens live below the poverty line. Yet today some governments of Muslim-majority countries are encouraging their citizens to attack European embassies. For many dictatorial and undemocratic Muslim regimes, the cartoon controversy represents a wonderful diversion away from the real problems facing their communities.

My message to Muslim mobs is simply this - before you consider tearing down the houses (and embassies) of others, think about cleaning up your own."

At 2/06/2006 11:36:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 2/06/2006 11:56:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Muslim hypocrisy continues.

Now, the grand mufti of al-Azhar wants to lead a demonstration against the Denmark, and wants the Muslims to boycott Norway and the Denmark.

After 4 months of the publication of those heroic cartoons, the Muslim world suddenly reads newspapers or hears TV News. The ignorant world of Islam, though living in this marvel of technological speed, sees or hears the news after 4 months of them taking place.

Tantawi will lead a protest demonstration, and calls for boycotting demnmark and orway for they are the enemies of "God"

At 2/06/2006 11:59:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 2/06/2006 12:05:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...


At 2/06/2006 12:08:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

I don't understand why the Capital of Islam and defender of the faith Damascus and it's fine Mukhabrats are allowing this Zionist Media platform AILAF, and in particular this Zionist agent / correspondent Mardini to operate and report out of Syria. It is one thing to show the world that Syria permits free speech, and freedom of press, but it is another when the news platform is an enemy of the people of Syria and had continually shown utter disregard to Syrian National Interests. Ailaf, has continually ignored all of Syria’s positive moves and had sensationalized all the false and fabricated one. On behalf of the Syrian Republican Party and the Syrian Nationalist Committee, we demand that the Syrian government ban this trashy news outfit and it’s correspondents from entering Syria. We call on the people of Syria, to make it as discomfort able as possible for anyone associated with this Zionist supported news online-rag (AILAF) to move within Syria and not to provides any comments or welcome to any of it’s Zionist agents.

Reports has recently received, this online-rag, has restricted comments by Nationalist Syrians groups and even opposition parties that are loyal to their country and it’s sovereignty and has refused to provide equal access to varied opinion, it has further refused to publish comments that are not in accordance with the Zionist agenda in the new comment section.

We demand immediate action by the people of Syria and the attention of the Syrian Government to this evil Zionist backed and supported medium.

At 2/06/2006 12:10:00 PM, Blogger said...

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At 2/06/2006 12:30:00 PM, Blogger ThePolemicist said...

Some of these comments are realy crazy, but for the sane, if you don't see the hand of Bashaar behind the riots in Damascus, then you're either delusional or a die-hard member of the Syrian Computer Society.

At 2/06/2006 01:03:00 PM, Blogger Pascal said...

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At 2/06/2006 01:09:00 PM, Blogger Pascal said...

**** or a die-hard member of the Syrian Computer Society. ****

No, the correct name is " Syrian Chombuter society

At 2/06/2006 01:31:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Just let those savage Islamists/Baathists imagine that their way would be the way every other nation or group adopts to protest some unhappiness about something some one does some where in a newspaper! Just imagine what they will say if the Christian world started to immitate the Muslim world, and protested and burned Muslim Embassies.

Do Muslims think they are heroes when they attack a foreign Embassy in their lands? Or when they kidnap a Westerner? I see pictures of their faces at the crime scene expressing so much joy and happiness, and feeling a kind of victory, really a victory only real cowards would enjoy!

I wonder how brave those demonstrators would be if faced with their own regime forces, not to say some one eles's. How do they behave at Western Airports when they claim political refuggee status? Do they feel that courage, and that bravery?

Should the West start dealing with Islam and its people in the same way? For example, kidnap Muslims living in the West? Oh well, Muslims know that the Westerners would not do that, and they wouldn't do it because of few reasons, among which that there is order in the West, but also that Westerners do not equate all Muslims with what those Islamists do, unlike the thing on the other side. Second reason is that Westerners know that no Islamic copuntry or group will even care about freeing a kidnapped Muslim, or saving his life. This is the truth about Islamic nations. If their own people get in trouble some where, none of them will even care about what would happen to him/her. And so Westerners do not reciprocate or behave like Muslims do. This simple thing is giving those Islamists the sense of victory to exercise power over an Embassy that can not defend itself in a foregin land, or a western journalist or a business man or an aid worker who is trying to help their own brothers in being in their lands. Islamists kidnap him, may kill him, and think they are doing "Allah" a favor, or that they have scored a victory they can celebrate.

What is more disgusting is that regimes that people like Landis classify as "secular" are behind such violence and stupidity in the name of religion, or in protecting a "profit/phet".


At 2/06/2006 01:33:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

So many find comments here crazy. They think Moslems are crazy to behave that way. Well, I am an atheist and I find these Jokes (not going to point to cartoons) about Jesus, incredibly offensive and in poor taste, they hurt me personally even though I am not Christian. Weather Jokes or cartoons, these kind of expression do not amuse nor entertain, they just insult and offend. In this case the publication of this kind of material is a way to mass insult and wholesale offend an entire population that can be in the billions.

Go ahead, read these jokes and see how you will be ashamed that as a human you belong to specie that behave and think like this, like the one that drew the cartoons of Mohammad PBUH and those that founded amusing to publish it.

Read the first 3, are they more offensive and cruel than the last. That is my point. That is what I find these cartoons like plain offensive and insulting.

Why did Jesus cross the road? Because he was nailed to the chicken.
What's the difference between Jesus Christ and an oil painting? You only need one nail to hold up a picture.
Jesus Christ walks into an inn. He hands the innkeeper 3 nails and asks, "Can you put me up for the night?"

What did God say to Jesus? "I don't care if you are my son, drop that cross one more time, and you're out of the parade."

Why didn't Jesus get into college? He got hung up on his boards.

Let Jesus be your anchor! So when Satan rocks your boat, throw Jesus overboard!

drunk is sitting on the street curb in front of a bar.
A stranger comes by and asks if he's O.K.
The drunk replies by asking, "Do you know who I am?"
The stranger says "No. Who are you?"
The drunk proudly says "I'm Jesus Christ...and I can
prove it! Come with me!"
They enter the bar and the bartender looks up and yells
"Jesus Christ! Are you here again?"

The three wise men arrived to visit the child lying in the manger. One of the wise men was exceptionally tall and bumped his head on the low doorway as he entered the stable. "Jesus Christ!" he exclaimed. Joseph said, "Write that down, Mary; it's better than Clyde!"

At 2/06/2006 01:39:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

Here is an article written in Arabic by Nidal Nueisseh in which he alludes to a feeling of shame for being Syrian. A very nice article.

"""""""""""""نضال نعيسة

"من دخل الكعبة فهو آمن, ومن دخل دار أبي سفيان فهو آمن"، أقوال خالدة ومعبرة قالها الرسول الأعظم(ص)، في ذروة انتصاره المكي الساحق، تجسيدا لروح التسامح، والعفو عند المقدرة. ولكن يبدو، وبكل أسف، أن من يدخل دمشق هذه الأيام، سيكون غير آمن على الإطلاق، ولن ينعم بالطمأنينة والأمان، بعد ما حصل مع السفارتين الدانمركية، والنرويجية، اللتين تعرضتا للفتك، والانتهاك والاحتراق عن بكرة أبيهما، وكأن التتار قد استباحوا الشام مرة أخرى. لقد تمادى الرعاع، وذهب الغوغاء بعيدا، وسبقوا المحتجين في جميع دول العالم، حتى في لاهور، وكراتشي، وكشمير، وقندهار تلك البؤر الطالبانية الأشهر. ولِمَ لم يحدث ذلك سوى في الشام، والآن، الشام التي تميزت تاريخيا بالتسامح، وكانت تشع نورا، وألقا، وضياء، وبوتقة لجميع شعوب الأرض، والأديان؟

في قانون الطوارئ، القانون النافذ الوحيد، والمطبق بنجاح، وتحترمه السلطات أشد احترام، ويحرص المعنيون على تنفيذه وبحذافيره، والسهر عليه، يمنع التجمع، ولأي سبب كان، وتنظيم المسيرات، والاحتفالات، والندوات، وحتى في الأعراس، دون الحصول على إذن رسمي، ومن الجهات المعروفة بتشددها حيال هذا الأمر الحيوي والهام. فكيف لأولئك الغوغاء الذين استباحوا حرمة السفارتين من تخطي كل تلك الحواجز الفولاذية، وكسر الطوق الأمني وتحديه؟ لقد بدا أنه يُسمح فقط للرعاع باختراق قانون الطوارئ هذا، ولا يمتثلون له. والرعاع كانوا دائما فوق كل القوانين، والأعراف.

في كل الاتفاقات، والمواثيق الدولية، تمثل السفارات أرضا سيادية للدولة صاحبة التمثيل، وتوجب على سلطات البلاد، والجهات الرسمية احترام هذه السيادة، والعمل على حمايتها وعدم المساس بها، ولكن الرعاع لا يعترفون بسيادة أحد، ولا يحترمون أية مواثيق، وأعراف دولية.

هل بقي أدنى شك، أن هناك دولا قطعت شوطا حضاريا طويلا، وبلغت "مراحله" النهائية، ولكن، وبنفس الوقت،هل بقي أدنى شك بأن هناك دولا، وحكومات، وشعوبا ما زالت تعيش في الكهوف والأدغال، ولم تضع أقدامها، بعد، على بداية هذا الطريق الطويل والشاق، وإن كانت تحاول أن تظهر، وتقول، غير ذلك في وسائل الإعلام.

في السلمية في قلب البادية السورية، والتي تبعد عن دمشق مئات الكيلومترات، مُنع عقد اجتماع بسيط لعدد من ناشطي حقوق الإنسان، وكانت "العيون" الجاحظة ساهرة، والحمد لله، تراقب هذا الخطر الداهم والنشاط المشبوه، بينما مرت تلك الجموع الغفيرة، في قلب الشام، دون أن تلحظها، أو تدري بها نفس العيون النجلاء، وذهبت في إغفاءة لذيذة في عز النهار.

هل آن الأوان لكي يكون المرء خجلا من "سوريته" هذه الأيام؟ وهل أصبحت "السورية" لعنة تطارد كل من يحملها؟ تلك "السورية" التي لم يبق منها شيئا الآن، ولم تعد تعني سوى الفقر، والبؤس، والتردي العام، والتشرد، والضياع، والمذلة، والهوان، والانقضاض، بدون وازع ورحمة، على من مُنحوا عهد الأمان، واختزلت، السورية الأعرق، في حرق السفارات جهارا، وأمام الكاميرات؟

ماذا سيقول الناظر في كل مكان، والغربي بشكل عام، وهو يرى الرعاع يستبيحون حرمة السفارات؟ لعله سيكون من الصعب جدا عليهم فهم ذلك، وتقبله؟ كما أن اقتلاع هذه الصور الشنعاء، وتلك القناعات، من ذهنه، بعد ذاك، سيصبح ضربا من المستحيل, وحرثا بالماء. إنها الرسالات الخاطئة، في الأزمنة الخاطئة، وفي كل الاتجاهات الخاطئة.

ليس هناك أبأس من قضية عادلة يتولاها محام فاشل. فما بالك حين يتنطح، لأقدس القضايا، والرسالات، الغوغاء، والرعاع ؟

هل صار من يدخل الشام، في خطر، وغير آمن على نفسه، وماله، وعرضه، حتى لو كان هناك مواثيق، والتزامات، واتفاقيات، وقانون دولي عريض يكفل، ويضمن هذا الأمان؟ إن حرق السفارات، وبتلك الطريقة المشينة، يجيب عن هذا السؤال المرير، والهام.

At 2/06/2006 01:59:00 PM, Blogger Nur-al-Cubicle said...

Embassy buring is standard operating procedure when the street is outraged. Our family recalls when the Libyans burned down the British embassy in Tripoli in the '70s. The Queen refused to indemnify our diplomat friend for the loss of his car! No one was killed. Just some dramatic street theatre at which govt winks. Par for the course.

This does not trouble me as much as US Homeland Security, which sent up fighter aircraft to shadow (and potentially blast out of the sky) French civilian airlines in 2003/2004 because a few members of the cabin crew had Sephardic last names. For the boobs at HS, they were "terrorist Ay-rabs". Or those Americans who went around and shot dead turbaned Sikhs after 9-11.

At 2/06/2006 02:00:00 PM, Blogger I rather born Syrian or a dog said...


At 2/06/2006 02:30:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"Interesting, when I was watching these mobs rampaging thru Chritian neighborhoods today, I also had a very strong feeling that this is a taste of 'things to come'. I highly doubt that the Syrians were behind this, and it's very telling that every security failure in Lebanon today is still being blamed on the Syrians.

Did Hizbullah have inside knowledge that something was awry? it withdrew from the demonstrations at the last minute, as if knowing that they were walking into a trap, a set-up to show the Shia of Lebanon as violent and uncontrollable?"

My deard DB, you contradict yourself.

If Hezbollah knew that something fishy was going to happen, it means that they knew that somebody wanted to manipulate the demonstration. The question is who? Israel :)?

And I still can't explain the official count: "Seventy-seven out of the 192 rioters detained on Sunday are Syrian nationals. The others are 42 Palestinians, 48 Lebanese and 25 Bedouins. "

At 2/06/2006 04:10:00 PM, Blogger Dr Victorino de la Vega said...

At the end of the day, the current political situation boils down to a straightforward allegiance problem…and the fact of the matter is that faux sheikh Saad Al-Hariri and aspiring sheikh Fuad Saniura both hold Saudi citizenships and are literally on the Wahhabi terrorist payroll: they both sit on the board of directors of PUBLIC and private Saudi firms (oooops conflicts of interests!...) and they both literally receive fat paychecks from Riyadh at the end of every month that Allah makes.

I guess you simply cannot bite the hand that feeds you, the hand that gives you money [Oger SAL, Solidere, Liban-Cell], gives you a job [Qoreytem, Oger SAL again, Bank Al-Madina], gives you a house [Beiut- The Grand Serail, Jeddah- facing the Wahhabi Grand Mosque, Paris- facing the Eiffel tower itself…for the Hariris always like to show some “hauteur”!]


At 2/06/2006 04:10:00 PM, Blogger O.D.M said...

A lot of bored people in here are either trying to get blog traffic or just trying regain their sense of manhood back after yesterdays' disasterous sex session with a couple of smart comments and insults.

On the Cartoon issue:

Freedom of expression doesn't mean you can walk around dangling your weenie in the streets.

Somethings are just taboo, and are not alright to talk about: like talking about Jewish influence in the hallways of Capitol Hill, and drawing Islam's holliest VIP.

As for the Demonstration in Syria, it actually fits well in my ambitions' equation as it showed that Syrians are not bad in revolt, as a matter of fact, it fueled my Civil Disobedience Movement.

With regards to the few idiots who come here to diss Syrians and leave, it is true they are more like a silent fart, but a couple of farts like that can mess the smell of a room as big as this one.

As for all those Lebanese attributing the sabotage in their capital to Syrians, I would like to remind them that Lebanon is not only made up of Leather pant-wearing tra-la-la "Michelle" , "Chantal" and "Maroon" asking for "herrie" and "este2laal".

As a percentage to the total population, you have as many unemployed nawar who would do anything for a change as Syrians..please stop being gay.

You are being worst than Arabs linking everything from Tsunami to Diarrhea to the Zionnist/Imperliastic/Colonizing Jews.

Syria First and Last,


At 2/06/2006 06:06:00 PM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Wow, it's getting really hard to get thru all the trash posted by attention-whoring idiots here, you know who you are.


I don't see the contradiction. If Hizbullah knew something was fishy, and withdrew, I don't see the problem.

As for the many Syrians/Pals/Bedouins amongst the crowd, I don't care if they were demonstrating. What I care about is who committed these acts, and more importantly, who instructed them to do so. Maybe under the new (failed) security apparatus, we'll never know...

At 2/06/2006 06:41:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

""Show me where I have ever defended the Assad regime?" DB

LOL. No where that I can see!! You seem to be hating this nice regime.

At 2/06/2006 08:36:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

DB, if HA withdrew because it smelled that something was fishy, it means that it had intelligence that something was being planified.

I am not saying that HA had something to do with this, on the contrary, they had a responsible reaction. Imagine HA militants fighting with Sunni salafists! No mainstream party in Lebanon want to be associated with religious clashes.

At 2/06/2006 11:51:00 PM, Blogger DamasceneBlood said...

Check out this interview with Riad Seif on Aldomari blog (Arabic):

Riad Seif Interview

At 2/07/2006 01:19:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...



Wednesday, February 01, 2006

The view from Denmark
Here's a change from me rabbiting on. A young lady from Denmark called Inge wrote to me a couple of times recently. I found her Danish perspective on events so interesting, that with her permission I am reproducing it here.


First a formal presentation:My name is Inge M. Jessen, 25, and I study History at Copenhagen University, Denmark. I have also studied Egyptology for a couple of years and thus have managed to gather a few Muslim friends since Arabic (among other things) was also available at my old department. Now, I have been following this whole deal with the drawings of the Prophet with great interest lately (especially today) and thereby came across your blog. As a student of history I always try to aim for objectivity and stuff, and that's what I also strive for in this case. I think Islam in its essence focuses on peace among men and I have friends here who are able to practice their religion and still be able to function in this society (which usually involves a scary amount of sarcastic remarks etc). I feel kinda sorry for them, for how the general sentiment among Danish people has become rather negative towards immigrants and Muslims. It's a pity because many are good people and just want a normal life here. So when I saw those drawings I (like you) didn't find them particularly funny, just kinda crude...yeah, this is not the rocket science end of satire. I draw myself, so I just started thinking how one could have done it a little better.

I also thought of the time when my Muslim friend, Mona, decorated my hand with henna...and I asked her whether she could write something nice in Arabic on it...and since I knew the term "Mashallah" (what Allah wills) she did this. And how the next day an old Arab man on the bus got pissed off when he saw it and told me in Danish I could hardly understand that it was wrong (I definitely got the word "haram!"). And how when I told Mona about this, she assumed the guy was probably right and told me that I could perhaps put some chlorine on it to bleach it (!! - I didn't think my hand would really like that!). And how I spent a whole paranoid week with long sleeved shirts, trying to hide this accident. I understand that Muslims are sensitive about these things...and to be honest, I think it's okay to a degree. Which is why I probably wouldn't see any reason in doing drawings like that myself. But this whole mess...this avalanche that has been absurd.The worst thing is (and I've just spent two hours talking to a Saudi friend online, being held responsible for the actions of "my" government) that the Danish success in saving its Jewish population during WWII is now being linked with us being "Jew lovers" (because *of course* there's a Jewish conspiracy behind this)...and then I wind up desperately trying to explain that Arabs are technically also a "semitic" people and thus it's pointless to talk about anti-semitism...Besides, we didn't really *have* any Arabs nor Muslims in Denmark during WWII.I feel it's so unfair because Denmark has always tried to be a diplomatic country and because of its size has been forced to always ally with others and not be too opinionated. And now it sounds like we are crazy people who like putting down other people's religion. I don't understand why we're not allowed to have our freedom of speech. I tried to explain to my friend in Riyadh that Danes would definitely have saved its Muslim population too if it had been the case during the war. We see people as people and are not very focused on which religion they belong to.Unfortunately this will just create a wider gap between the Muslim communities here and the "ethnic Danish" ones (for lack of a better term). I don't want to see my friendly Iraqi grocer get less business because of this stupid deal.Let me praise you for having such a good sense of humour. Your insight on the details of SA society and culture also gave me some new input that were quite useful. I like my Muslim friends and have been to the mosque a couple of times and always liked it and been well received. And want more of that and not hate and ridiculous pride (on both sides).


Damn, this stuff has been on the radio all day *sigh*. The new semester started today, so I went to my department for class. Discussed the issue with a couple of fellow students. I think we are all very surprised of how this has all turned. I have also read what people have written in a couple of online Danish forums, and it seems that what really concerns people is the (albeit subtle) threat to Danish sovereignty - how come "we" should change our customs, our law, according to what is acceptable to Muslims in the Middle East?

A controversial Danish artist made a movie some years ago where he depicted Jesus as sex-crazy young man...and he even got money from the state’s cultural funding. Some people protested, but he could get away with it because of the legislation here. The same legislation that makes it illegal for Danish citizens to burn other countries' flags, yet lets you burn the Danish one without prosecution.We have had to endure Nazis heil’ing in the streets, opinionated politicians comparing Muslims with cancer cells (!) - something that most people (really - most people!) do not agree with, Hizb'ut Tahrir members preaching that democracy cannot be unified with the concepts of Islam or how Muslim armies ought "move to destroy the Jewish entity"...well, there's a lot of stuff you have to accept when you live here, but the cool thing is that if you disagree with something being said, you are allowed to speak up yourself! Other countries have made certain parties, containing Nazis, extreme Muslims etc, illegal. Here the politicians have discussed this matter a lot and have decided to allow all organisations, congregations of people etc, as long as they submit to the law – meaning, that they may not seriously threaten people or use violence. If we allow Nazis how can we then be Jewish minions?If we saved our Jews during WWII because we are controlled by a Jewish lobby, how come the Danish government clearly collaborated with Nazi Germany in many ways also??This serves as an example to show that history and the present are always more complex than we want it to be.

I could write loads of more examples of how different things work here, but I will stop here for now. I know that most Danes laugh when America drops all the “Free World” rhetoric …we are not idealist like that – we are not trying to *save* anyone or convince the rest of the world that we are right. But I think one of the few things we like about where we live is the fact that we can say what we want without fear. Well, until now. Because who will dare to speak, draw, joke…say *anything* about the holy Prophet Muhammad or Islam after this?

Thanks, Inge

At 2/07/2006 08:52:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

Naharnet has two conflicting reports about the rioters: one says that "most of the Palestinian detainees belong to the PFLP-GC", while the other says that "the majority of the detainees belong to radical Islamist groups, including Osbat al-Ansar, which is based in the Ain al-Helweh refugee camp".

The same report mentions the arrest of two Sheiks in connection with the riots:

"Security forces in Sidon arrested Sheikh Mohammed al-Ansari and Sheikh Ahmed Nassar, both preachers in separate mosques, an Nahar reported Tuesday. The two sheikhs were arrested along with other suspected rioters.

The security forces found machineguns and other weapons in the building where the two sheikhs live."

The Daily Star reports, however, that the arrests were connected to the "bombing that targeted the Lebanese Army's Prince Bashir barracks in Ramlet al-Baida" (claimed by al-Qa'ida):

Police arrest three suspects in attacks on army post

SIDON: Three new people, including a Muslim cleric, were arrested on Monday on suspicion of throwing a hand grenade at the Lebanese Army barracks in Beirut last week.

According to security sources, a police unit raided an apartment on Awqaf street in Sidon at around noon, seizing machine guns, missiles, bombs, ammunition, hand grenades, detonators and maps.

Policemen were seen carrying several white bags and cardboard boxes of weapons and ammunition out of the apartment and loading them into four Internal Security Forces vehicles.

The sources said the apartment that was raided belongs to Sheikh Mohammad al-Ansar, and is located in a building belonging to the Dar al-Awqaf (the Islamic Endowment Center).
Daily Star

UPI reports:

Weapons seized from house of Muslim cleric

SIDON, Lebanon, Feb. 6 (UPI) -- Security forces seized weapons from the house of a Sunni extremist cleric in south Lebanon suspected of involvement in attacks on army troops.

A security source said police broke into the house of Ahmed Ansari in the southern port city of Sidon Monday and confiscated explosives, guns, automatic rifles and fliers inciting Islamic extremism.

Ansari was arrested last week as part of investigation into dynamite attacks on army checkpoints outside the Palestinian refugee camp of Ein el-Hilweh, a haven for outlaws and Muslim extremists wanted by the Lebanese authorities.

The source, who spoke to United Press International on condition of anonymity, said Ansari maintains close relations with extremist Palestinian and Lebanese groups based in Ein el-Hilweh, which is outside the control of Lebanese authorities.

And L'Orient-Le Jour reports that the weapons cache belongs to a group called "Ansar al-Qa'ida":

Découverte d’une énorme cache d’armes à Saïda

La Voix du Liban a indiqué hier que selon des sources sécuritaires, une énorme cache d’armes et de munitions a été découverte à Saïda. Selon la VDL, il y aurait un lien entre ce dépôt d’armes et les activités du groupuscule Ansar el-Qaëda, au Sud.
L'Orient-Le Jour

This is more evidence that Khaled Midhat Taha's cell and the extremist groups in Ain al-Hilweh are linked.

At 2/07/2006 09:07:00 AM, Blogger Pascal said...

Thanks t-disco. More and more we see a definit link between Al Qaida and the Assad regime. Thanks again.

At 2/07/2006 09:23:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...


apart from Walid Jumblatt's claims, I've seen no evidence of such links yet, but if you have "definitive" information, feel free to post it.

At 2/07/2006 09:27:00 AM, Blogger why-discuss said...

Relatiatory cartoons breaking tabous on jews and europeans under the Free Expression Campaign see

At 2/07/2006 10:14:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Ghadri, and the other dude,
When you are going to stop playing the NeoZionists clown game and start play the part Syrians would like to watch a Syrian Nationalist.

Your scare tactics of regime change and other secret-clandestine planning not even the animal in Homs Chicken Zoo believe in. The American game is getting Saddam's cash out of Damascus. What you are going to get out of it. A Hollywood movie deal as an entertaining Clown Actor!!

Here is an advise for yoy. Syrians are not Bedouins, Syrians are very intelligent people and Bedouin Arabs have an intelligence below that of monkeys. Your Boss the Neo Con/Neo Zionist knows that very well, he showd this knowledge in Iraq and the way he keeps dealing in the Middle East. What you got to do, is start pounding on your chest, and tell him you are Syrian not Arab.

At 2/07/2006 10:27:00 AM, Blogger ahnad said...

Vivia syrians la republica republicana partia de la al kameeso.

Nos otres no comprima toutes la fashia de la escuala desel baatheia republicana partia.

Vivia al syriana yahoudia por la kameesa syriana.

At 2/07/2006 11:51:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 2/07/2006 12:07:00 PM, Blogger t_desco said...

"Fattfat said preliminary investigations could not substantiate claims by the country's main anti-Syrian coalition that Syrian forces and Jordanian and Palestinian militants had infiltrated Lebanon to cause Sunday's riots."

Lebanon arrests five for army barracks attack

At 2/07/2006 01:44:00 PM, Blogger Abu Lanjri Baker Al Farran said...

Yeah sure dude, it's all Syria's fault, even when the fingerprints of the Saudi terrorist regime are bigger than the proverbial elephant in the living-room!

Lebanon's new interior minister a certain Ahmad Fatfat holds dual Saudi/Lebanese citizenships and was a member of the Dannieh branch of the fascist Moslem Brotherhood youth movement: we can surely count on him and on his disinterested "Darak" NOT to catch Harirista church-burners and other Wahhabi thugs!

Expect him to indict some hapless Syrian migrant workers instead...

Your fascist friend Tony Bad-Rat will no doubt write an self-righteous editorial titled "Leb Cops Caught More Baathist Thugs"


At 2/07/2006 01:48:00 PM, Blogger Atassi said...

Josh.. Sorry man, this blog has been hijacked by worthless comments. Welcome to the medieval Syrian politics..

At 2/07/2006 02:49:00 PM, Blogger Freedom For Syria said...

YYYYYYYYYeah, welcome to the Atassi's country. They fucked it up so bad and now wants to do it in some more to please the Jews. No enough they gave the Golan to them and did a huge favor of Nationalizing every Syrian industry, trade, commerce, banking and even educational institutions. REMEMEBR "SIMEX" ASSHOLES. We gonna SIMEX your Nasserite ass soon.

At 2/07/2006 02:55:00 PM, Blogger FreeSyria said...

atassi: Why are you attacking me?

At 2/07/2006 03:02:00 PM, Blogger t_desco said...

As As'ad AbuKhalil argues, the latest ICG report does indeed offer a possible explanation for the presence of radical Wahhabi groups from the North at the demonstration in Beirut.

Lebanon: Managing the Gathering Storm
Crisis Group Middle East Report N°48, 5 December 2005:

(In the highly competitive contests in the north) "Hariri also allied with Islamists, including members of the Muslim Brotherhood.16 Aoun asserted that “the Hariri camp worked against me by funding and promoting Muslim religious fanatics in Tripoli”.17"

17: "Crisis Group interview, Beirut, 27 October 2005. Hariri paid $48,000 in bail for four members of the Dinniyeh Group of 200 to 300 Islamist militants who in January 2000 launched a failed attempt to establish an Islamic “mini-state” in north Lebanon. ...
After the elections, Hariri used his parliamentary majority to secure amnesty for 22 of the Islamists as well as seven militants detained in September 2004 on suspicion of plotting to bomb the Italian and Ukrainian embassies in Beirut. See Al-Mustaqbal, An-Nahar and The Daily Star, 10 June 2005, and below."

(Various groups) "note that one of the new parliamentary majority’s first measures was to amnesty dozens of Sunni militants, including seven detained in
September 2004 for plotting to bomb the Italian and
Ukrainian embassies in Beirut.91 During the elections,
Saad al-Hariri had paid some $48,000 as bail for four
of them, who were welcomed at a celebration attended
by Hariri’s ally, the current prime minister, Siniora."
International Crisis Group/Lebanon

Now imagine that other members of the Dinniyeh Group (obviously not those in prison) were responsible for the killing of his father. How terrible!

At 2/07/2006 05:27:00 PM, Blogger Dr Victorino de la Vega said...

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At 2/07/2006 05:29:00 PM, Blogger Dr Victorino de la Vega said...

Spot on T_DESCO!

One could even argue that the most influential Wahhabi-fascist thinker of the 20th century whom King Fahd and O.B. Laden both called “the great professor” (“Al Ustaz-al-Kabeer”) actually started his malevolent career out of a small clock repair shop in the old Midân district of Damascus:

Sheikh NASIR-UDDIN AL-ALBANI famously said that, if forced to choose, he “preferred Israel or even Satan himself to Western Enlightenment and Michel Aflaq’s 'imported' Baathist ideology” (“Al-Afqar Al-Mustawradeh”).

In that perspective, Saad Al-Hariri, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney & Co. are as much the political heirs of Al-Albani as say his fanatical Saudi and Afghan disciples!!

As the French say “plus ça change”...

At 2/07/2006 08:13:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

The following is a report describing a clash between Syrian women leading a change in women's status and rights in Syria and the Muslim Clergy men decalring the women "infidels" from the Mosques speakers (Infidel persons can be legally killed in islam). The report also speaks of the struggle of women against a regime taht has dealt with some opposition women even worse as with men, a treatment that is degrading and inhumane by all norms.

May be the genius English teacher (BloodyDamscene) can do the translation of the article.


At 2/07/2006 09:00:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said... is a story on the upcoming 5-year economic plan in Syria. Mr. Dardari optimistically projects a 7% growth rate by 2010. Once one reads this article, you cannot but feel totally dejected and hopeless about the future. These people just d not get it. The two best quotes are:

“The plan does not include the elimination of the public sector but it attempts to make it a profitable and competitive sector as it relies on a partnership between the private and public sectors”.

In conclusion, “if we do not succeed in achieving our goals, we would still have put Syria on the road of social market economics, and the train will start its faster journey in the next and 11th five year plan and not this one”

A shocking statement indeed!

On the other hand, Issam Alzaeem proceeds to explain all the problems with this crazy and inconsistent economic theory.

It is amazing to see the amount of energy devoted on this forum to the cartoon controversy. One would have thought that enough had been said and discussed about this subject thus far. I guess I am in a minority.

At 2/07/2006 09:27:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Lets go back to more pressing and urgently dangerous problem that Syrians and all Moslems are facing now, back to the cartoons please.

This is an incredible assault that is waged by the West and the Judeo-Christozionists criminals, part of an elaborate plan to destroy the very self of Middle Eastern people and everything valuable and dear to them.

We must not let those criminals prevail. Never. This is purely an Israeli plot to initiate a conflict between Islam and Europe after they have initiated and successfully completed a conflict between America and Islam.

At 2/07/2006 09:36:00 PM, Blogger SSPRS Agent-Provocateur said...

Indeed Metaz. Our basic instinct urgently impelling us Moslem, true Moslems, (not the fake one like those Arab Leaders and Saudis, Jordanians and Africans, you know the Bayanooni type, the fakes that shake hand and meet with the Guattanamo and Abu Ghuraib Architects. We must not let this cartoons slide away. Our very existence depends on confronting those evil one behind it, or Moslem will simply all will be wiped out by Allah divine judgment for sure.

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At 2/07/2006 09:56:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

Syria,s move toward freemarket economy is slow but that is because of fear of repeatinng the Rusian experience,there are many things the govorment can do with govorment employees like better Mail System better railways better MVD and driving laws ,if they just stop hiring and encourage private secter buisness all that will make Govorment smaller and private secter bigger and change Syria to the beter,just it is going to take a lile longer ,may be.

At 2/07/2006 10:00:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Of course it is Israel. Their agents were had been planted in the Danish capital to befriend its media personnel and hence the cartoon publication. Cut it out.
This is an insensitive and bigoted person/people who allowed the publication of this. It was done in bad taste. The response we have seen in the streets is in equally bad taste. Enough said. No need to establish one’s manhood on this subject matter any longer. This is not a grand assault that is waged by the west. Stop throwing big words with impunity and irresponsibility. But you won’t of course.

At 2/07/2006 10:00:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Nationalism Eternally said...

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At 2/07/2006 10:02:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

Four and a half years ago BIn Laden attacked the US trying to instigate a war between the muslem and Arab world and the west,he failed because the US separated between the islamist and the rest of the muslems ,attacked the islamist and offerd compation although in words to the muslems,now a stupid Danish newspaper succssded were Bin Laden failed and showed the muslems that the west does not like muslems or Islam and it is going to take a long time correct that impretion.

5:10 AM

At 2/07/2006 10:24:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

They call it freedom of expression. Lets see, freedom to insult a real human being that is deceist, a freedom of expression toward a man that is worshipped by nearly a Billion Human and once was their political and religious leader. Freedom of Expression, that is what the Dane and Euro-Peon called it.

Does that mean under those countries Freedom of Expression Law and right I can show over the internet streaming videos of women having wild sex and orgies for real. Then digitally and seamlessly insert the head of the Queen or Princess of any one of those (ant-colony-style of rule) countries? Can I show the queen getting it hard from Seven men group ? How about having sex with a dog?

If it is permissible under these countries laws to show Mohammad being fucked by a dog, as shown in one of the cartoons, why it would not be alright to use the Queen too? And if it is not permissible in these countries, then will show it on Middle East servers.

So you see the hypocrisy, I think we should test and prove this hypocrisy of these bastard Euro-Peons. If it is okay for the leading man of Islam, the most venerable one to be insulted that way, then that should be 0okay for the petty Queen, her queer son and fagots daughters. Lets now work on it. Lets show the world the hypocrisy of these bastards and expose the lie, prove that it was nothing more than insult and humiliation for all Moslems and not freedom of expression.

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At 2/07/2006 11:50:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...


You're arguing with a hoax man, get real.

Just ignore SRP and his multiple personality.

I would be really curious to know how is his real life though.

At 2/08/2006 05:56:00 AM, Blogger ForFreedomOfExpression said...

Can this hurt Allah and his Prophet PBUH ??????

Warning: For hard men only!

Any comments?

At 2/08/2006 06:40:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

In his press conference yesterday, Suleiman Franjieh gave yet another version of the unfolding Khaled Taha story:

"Évoquant l’enquête sur l’assassinat de Rafic Hariri, Sleimane Frangié a accusé « la majorité » de vouloir l’orienter dans un seul sens et d’étouffer des informations lorsqu’elles ne s’inscrivent pas dans ce sens-là. Il s’est demandé comment Khaled Taha, l’un des 13 prévenus du réseau el-Qaëda récemment arrêtés, a-t-il pu s’enfuir après avoir reconnu avoir filmé Abou Adass ?"
L'Orient-Le Jour

There are 13 members of that cell currently in detention, Khaled Taha is not among them, so he can't be "one of the 13 suspects".

At 2/08/2006 07:22:00 AM, Blogger MeTaz said...

In response to some queries on why I haven't written something specifically on the abuse of the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam), then that is because:

1. Many good people have written enough about it already

2. I feel too ashamed, living in Europe, to write when I know what the Shari'ah demands of us

Let there be no doubt: the crime of belittling the Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) results in instant death for the Muslim by unanimous opinion of the scholars, and the majority believe it to be the case as well for the Dhimmi and the Musta'man (those who have peace treaties etc) living in the Muslim lands under Islamic Law. That is how serious a crime this is.

As for these Europeans that are reviling the Prophet under their 'law' then we're at a dead end. As these non-Muslims are our own people living under their own law, we are forbidden to do anything that would contravene that law. How shameful for us.

Want to get an inside opinion on how I'm feeling at the moment on this subject? Have a little read of al-Shifa by Qadhi 'Iyadh (r) or if you're feeling really upto it, al-Sarim al-Maslul by Ibn Taymiyyah (r) and then tell me to calm down.

Why do we not have Shari'ah to preserve the Prophet's honour? Where is our Ameer al-Mu'mineen to run and avenge the Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam)? Where is that strength of the Believers that would make these criminals think twice before they lie under the banner of 'free speech'?

Seeing as we have no Shari'ah and seeing as we have no Leader and seeing as that we're struggling to gather even a motley crew of good enough 'believers' to grace the word 'Islam', then let us put our heads down in shame and humiliation, and let all those who can do something they feel worthwhile, do it.

Let us boycott, let us demonstrate, let us make our feelings known, let us educate, let us show the higher ethic - but let us also realise our individual pathetic state when we know the greatest of creation has been reviled and the criminals walk around smiling, and we just talk the talk and sell more European newspapers.

Wa Allahu Musta'an.

I know I shouldn't have written anything, because I find it difficult with such topics to control anything I write or say (cf the khutbah) descending into uncontrolled emotional rhetoric - so let me stop there and have mercy on my head and let the honourable Shaykh Riyad Nadwi put it a whole lot better than I ever will.

At 2/08/2006 07:30:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 2/08/2006 08:00:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

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At 2/08/2006 08:40:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

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At 2/08/2006 08:41:00 AM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

And I should listen to Vox. Thank you Vox for your advice.


At 2/08/2006 08:49:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

What JAM and others are not grasping and taking into account is the makeup SSPRS ideology that is land based, not people based. Zionism and SSNP ideologies are combined land / people ideologies. One call for Haaretz and Jews as one land one nation, the other calls for one united Greater Syria with one Syrian nation having one ruler/leader.

Although, the majority of SSPRS 287 ranking members (old guard) are faction of SSNP, we have many disagreements with that organization. For the purpose here, the major disagreement is the one Syrian Nation, one Greater Syria and one ruler. We focus on the geography more than the ruler or the people who we recognize to be from various races and not as Saadeh tried to force his American experience into Syria by introducing the “melting pot” concept on Greater Syria. Of course this pot idea worked very well in America. But it failed to work in Greater Syria region. The reason why it failed are many, most importantly is foreign meddling and Zionists who fear such united people in the region and see this as a threat to their economic interests. They have planned to divide and rule, the smaller the better. The people too did not have a unifying theme. In America, people have one unifying them to excel, prosper and live in safety and security. The people of the region have yet to attain that unifying concept.

So as we saw a direct threat on the geography of the land, which was plainly a Petro-Zionist attack and agenda, we have no choice but to respond to this threat.

The problem with many Middle Easters is that they are focusing solely on the people and nothing else. That is not our focus, because we do not believe that this is the critical issue here. You can replace Assad with Khaddam or someone new and you will still have the same if not worse situation for as long as the nation’s policy did not change.

At 2/08/2006 09:03:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 2/08/2006 09:28:00 AM, Blogger Alawites for Syria said...

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At 2/08/2006 10:06:00 AM, Blogger Atassi said...

Syrian Republican Party
, Metaz, othes Alias .. Please go and get your own blog. what you are doing is a total SPAM.
( last time I say please to you )

At 2/08/2006 10:06:00 AM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

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At 2/08/2006 10:51:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...

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At 2/08/2006 10:54:00 AM, Blogger Atassi said...

Syrian Republican Party ..
All your threats will be reported

At 2/08/2006 10:55:00 AM, Blogger adonis syria said...


Les services de sécurité syriens ont arrêté mardi soir à Tartous (ouest) l'écrivain-journaliste Adel Fayad en raison de ses articles publiés dans la presse et sur Internet, a indiqué mercredi l'avocat des droits de l'Homme Anouar Bounni.

Adel Fayad, la cinquantaine, a été arrêté à son domicile devant sa famille, a précisé l'avocat.

Il publie régulièrement des articles sur Internet et dans la presse arabe, notamment dans le quotidien libanais As-Safir, selon lui.

L'avocat a en outre fait état de l'arrestation, il y a dix jours près de Damas, de deux étudiants, qui, selon lui, «pensaient constituer un rassemblement démocratique de jeunes pour discuter des problèmes de la jeunesse».

Ali Ali et Houssam Melhem sont respectivement étudiants en gestion et en journalisme à l'université de Damas.

Les services de sécurité seraient à la recherche d'autres étudiants pour la même raison, selon Me Bounni.

«Les autorités syriennes tolèrent les actes de violence perpétrés par des manifestants contre des ambassades européennes alors qu'elles répriment durement les activités pacifiques», a-t-il dénoncé.

Il faisait référence aux attaques commises samedi contre des représentations diplomatiques européennes à Damas de la part de manifestants protestant contre les caricatures controversées du prophète Mahomet publiées dans des journaux occidentaux.

At 2/08/2006 11:43:00 AM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

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At 2/08/2006 12:01:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Some of the regulars on this comments section have come to believe that they own this space. They use the forum like it is their own. They attack others at will. They love to see their name on the board. They feel obliged to comment every single minute on every single topic that is open for discussion. What is most irritating is the repetitive nature of their views, which we have all been forced to read over and over. Syriacomment has the potential to be an outstanding forum for discussion amongst serious people interested in the affairs of this country. Dr. Landis has done an outstanding job filling the void that has clearly existed. It is a shame to see attention-seeking individuals ruin it for the vast majority of others. Would it not be better for these people to form their own sites and leave this section alone? I am glad that Dr. Landis has seemingly decided to intervene to save his own site. It is high time that these people have the decency to respect the will of the majority. I am perhaps being presumptuous but I feel that I am speaking on behalf of this majority, which feels that it has had enough. It is hopefully rather obvious to who I am referring to here.

At 2/08/2006 12:10:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

We agree with Ehsani2
We think those that come here to post an attack on others, should
stop doing that. Also, the site
administrator should remove any
comment which is solely an atatck
on others. Otherwise, each
should have the right to post his comment.

At 2/08/2006 12:12:00 PM, Blogger Innocent_Criminal said...

Well it seems that Josh has begun doing something about it.

At 2/08/2006 12:12:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

We agree with Ehsani2
We think those that come here to post an attack on others, should
stop doing that. Also, the site
administrator should remove any
comment which is solely an atatck
on others. Otherwise, each
should have the right to post his comment.

At 2/08/2006 12:42:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

Mr. Landis, the real problem here are those few that comes here and initiate an attack, assaulting others or placing comment that is offending to others, those that are currently using names like: JAM, Innocent_Criminal, Active Listner, Atassi, Vox Poopi, tops the list. We have a policy not to attack any poster or even refer to them by name. Just post our comment and leave. But we cannot ignore attacks, we will respond and that is the problem. So the first step is to immediately delete comments that are posted as an attack on other posters, rather than being an opinion or a comment.

Everyone should have the right in this public forum to respond and everyone should have the right to respond to pre-meditated attacks.

If you to review the past three month comments of many of these attackers you will see that they post no informative comment about Syria or Lebanon and the majority of their posts are heckling other posters or initiating an unprovoked personal attack.

I think you should put the rules on top of each comment page and enforce it.

At 2/08/2006 12:53:00 PM, Blogger ahnad said...

Ehsani, Stop inflating this man's ego.

Oh yes I know, Syrians like to pump others.

At 2/08/2006 01:02:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

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At 2/08/2006 01:12:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Actually for better security, not only positive ID, but a webpage or website of the poster that will registering for syriacomment posting should also be linked on the side or the bottom panel for references to the poster, and the webpage should also show positive id of the owner, such as email address, real name and address or tel number. Just like SSPRS have on it's site and so as your other sites. Everyone can see your address, tel, email etc.

This by far will raise syriacomment to the most professional level possible. It will also differ the attackers away from this part to the poster website to place his attacks outside the comment section.

At 2/08/2006 01:20:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Mr. Landis, you need to take out the offending commnet posted above by EHNAD.

At 2/08/2006 02:16:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

I have a dream, that one day will allow us to block the commentators by IP & IP range.

At 2/08/2006 02:24:00 PM, Blogger t_desco said...

Syrian ex-VP, Muslim Brotherhood join against Assad

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Former Syrian Vice President Abdel-Halim Khaddam and the exiled leader of the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood agreed on Wednesday to join forces to topple President Bashar al-Assad.

A source at Khaddam's office said the former official held talks with Ali Bayanouni, head of the Sunni Islamist group, in Brussels on Tuesday and Wednesday.

"There was agreement on a joint vision to save Syria from the crisis that the regime has placed it in," the source told Reuters in Beirut by telephone. "It was also agreed to contact other opposition leaders inside and outside Syria to come up with a joint plan of action."

At 2/08/2006 03:52:00 PM, Blogger t_desco said...

UN probe chief in New York

Meanwhile, Arabic daily newspaper Al-Hayat reported Wednesday that Brammertz "has received an invitation to visit Damascus last week," without mentioning whether the invitation included a scheduled meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad.

The newspaper added that "based on his consultations with the UN officials in New York, Brammertz will decide how to respond" to the invitation.

Quoting a source in Paris, Al-Hayat reported that the U.S. and France "will be waving targeted sanctions in the face of members from Syria's ruling Baath Party in case Damascus refused to cooperate with the UN probe and continues to destabilize Lebanon through interfering in its internal affairs."

The paper added that the threat of sanctions "will be transmitted through UN's envoy to Lebanon Terje Roed-Larsen. The punitive measures would only target Baath Party officials, as well as army and intelligence officers, without affecting the Syrian people."
The Daily Star

At 2/08/2006 04:15:00 PM, Blogger ActiveListener said...

I cannot comprehend why Dr Josh allowed his public profile site to become trashed in a way that would quickly lose him his job if it happened in his classroom and collapse his social life if it happened in his home.

"Web discussion sites are a natural magnet for people with mental disorders; they lack employment and social contacts and have no other outlets for their delusions and fixations. Their manic writings have always been mailed to the media, government, secret services, the Pope and Bin Laden etc. But now they have switched to the web, excited by the illusion of taking control, getting attention and being included – the very things they desperately crave. They are compulsive and quickly get out of control.

"As with political parties (another magnet) they simply have to be managed and kept away from the microphone otherwise everyone else walks out – and any potential newcomers take one look and refuse to come in the door." (From seminar on The Power of New Media)

Josh’s site in recent weeks has become a textbook case for web studies on this subject.

Worst of all, Syrian friends who were interested by postings I sent them by Ehsani and others considered joining the site, but backed off fast when they saw the comments section.

Such a shame and waste. I am sure there are many out there like me who just hope it is not too late for Dr Josh to save it.

At 2/08/2006 04:36:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

So many posters just come here and criticize the forum. If they do not like it, why they do not just come here. For sure Mr. Landis and this comment is not short of posters. So if you do not like it, why do you come here and post criticizm of it non stop. How about you come here and post something about Syria for a change.

At 2/08/2006 06:00:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

I think that the well advertised meeting between Khaddam and the Moslem Brotherhood leadership today could be significant What Khaddam could be trying is two fold:

1- Increase his power base and his Sunni Islamic credentials
2- Attempt to show the west that he has the ability to include the Moslem Brothers under his umbrella and potentially be able to exert influence over it in the future.

It is interesting to note that Khaddam’s “national action program” calls for a transitional government in Syria to take the country from the totalitarian regime to a democratically elected parliament that appoints a government. It also calls for a separation between the powers of president and those of the legislative and executive bodies, the abolishing of a four-decade state of emergency and the release of all political prisoners. The program also calls for the return of the Golan Heights in any future peace deal with Israel.

I, for one, find the above goals very noteworthy. In spite of this man’s alleged corruption record, I find the above program extremely attractive. There is no doubt that he faces a significant hurdle in making his case to the Syrian people who may have problems embracing him. Having said this, the Syrian people may have to make the most of all the bad deals on the table. Between having the above implemented by an ex corrupt individual or continuing with the status quo, my choice is clear. At this moment in the country’s modern history, we have to set our priorities. We simply cannot expect a saint to drop from the sky to take the leadership of this country and rid us of all its ills. Note the word, transitional government. If Khaddam can spearhead this effort and if enough guarantees can be made that this would indeed be an actionable national program, I think that Syrian people ought to take this deal. This opinion is going to be controversial, and I understand that.

P.S. Thank you Active Listener for the kind words. It is indeed the case that there are so many smart and articulate Syrians out there. Thanks to Dr. Landis, he has provided to us this entire attractive forum to be able to communicate, discuss, agree and disagree.

At 2/08/2006 06:11:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

Khaddam does not have any real power in Syria and neither Bayanooni. Neither have any foot soldier or tanks. Syrians are not fool to gamble on him. Not even Shahabi wants anything to do with Khaddam. It is one thing to have ideas and programs, it is another to get in power and whole another game trying to put the programs to work. And even you manage all those insurnamble obstacles, you still face the hardest of them all, put the plan to work successfully ( as the U.S. discovered in Iraq).

At 2/08/2006 06:33:00 PM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...

Agree with that. There is doubt that he faces significant hurdles. He indeed needs the key foot soldiers and “tanks”. This division is entrusted to Maher at the moment. It is the single most important division in the country. There is no way for anyone to militarily topple this regime without the control of these tanks. Khaddam knows this. What he seems to be basing his strategy on is a personal indictment of Bashar and his innermost circle. Were such a scenario to unfold, he wants to be the first in line amongst the potential candidates. By having the Moslem Brotherhood leadership under his wing, he can spearhead the so-called outside opposition. He has significant backing from Saudi Arabia, which cannot be dismissed. He obviously would be a dream candidate for Hariri and his Lebanese backers. The U.S. may find this future positive potential Lebanon-Syria axis too attractive to ignore. Is it all too fanciful? I think most would say yes.

At 2/08/2006 07:54:00 PM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

we outside Syria do not trust Khaddam, I am sure the people inside Syria do npt like him either, and it is a shame to replace dictator with another one, what we want freedom, democrasy I want to go back to Syria,and not get afraid of the security police to arrest me,or my family, now, the first thing I tell my kids do not talk politic with anyone ,even my relative, Khaddam is not an option.

At 2/08/2006 07:58:00 PM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

Indeed USA can order Bashar to stop flying any airoplane, Maher tanks then, worth nothing,and the revolution will succede.

At 2/08/2006 08:27:00 PM, Blogger norman said...

changing Bashar will not bring Syria to democrecy instead it will devide the country,the only option is to push and shove Syria toward organized reform without the caose of Iraq.the US can help Syria and take credet for it.

At 2/08/2006 08:31:00 PM, Blogger Metaz K. M. Aldendeshe said...

The United States, France, Israel, Russia, China, has made it clear that it does not wants regime change. Even Lebanese Druze leader and Lebanon Siniora said that.

Both Egypt and Saudi Arabia has provided assistant for President Assad.

Khaddam was restricted by France of making any public appearances.
There simply no external political support for Khaddam. Internal support is totally up sent, in fact if you to take a vote, Bashar will come way ahead. As some said here they do not wants to go back to pre-1963, they want to move forward.

Having or not having the Moslem Brotherhood is totally irrelevant. Both are obsolete in Syria, both had exhausted any support they had.
The Moslem movement in Syria is in fact underground hiding and it is not under Bayanooni command.

When you will all believe that a deal with President Assad is done. This si the art of American masters, they close the deal and keep everyone guessing for years.

And even if for some reason, the U.S. changed plans and reneged on the deal (Very doubtful and long to explain here). Directing allegation at President Assad, will in fact send things in the wrong direction, toward a bigger confrontation than a resolution. Someone is dreaming of Milo surrender. Not going to ever happen, armed conflict is more like it.

Finally, khaddam has been a chair leg for 4 decades, he came to power in the 1963 in fact. Today you cannot just cease the IZAAT ALRADIO, ARKAN and KASR JEMHOURI and play Marshal music all day long and the next morning announce that a military coup had taken over. I think Khaddam did not think his plans carefully and he still thinks this is 1963.

At 2/08/2006 08:41:00 PM, Blogger Joseph ALi Mohammed said...

If Khadam can help bring this regime down, then he is welcome.

At 2/08/2006 09:26:00 PM, Blogger Syrian Republican Party said...

إسرائيل أخفت معالم الأقصى في خارطتها واستبدلته بالهيكل

GMT 1:15:00 2006 الخميس 9 فبراير

. بشار دراغمه

بشار دراغمه من رام الله: كشفت مصادر إسرائيلية عن أن إسرائيل عملت على صناعة خارطة جديدة لم يظهر فيها المسجد الأقصى وظهر مكانه الهيكل الثالث الذي تروج جماعات صهيونية لإقامته مكان الهيكل، وقد قام على هذا المشروع وزارة المعارف الإسرائيلية والوكالة اليهودية، وبحسب المصادر فأن هذه الخارطة تم توزيعها على المدارس اليهودية في روسيا، وقامت صحيفة معاريف الإسرائيلية بنشر هذه الخارطة واكدت على أن وزارة التعليم والوكالة اليهودية قامتا بتوزيع خرائط حديثة للبلدة القديمة في القدس على آلاف التلاميذ في عشرات المدارس في روسيا ، إلا أنهم وضعوا مكان مسجد قبة الصخرة صورة للهيكل، وتحمل الخارطة شعار دولة إسرائيل وشعار الوكالة اليهودية.

وبحسب الصحيفة فقد تم أيضا إظهار الخارطة ليس بحدود إسرائيل الحالية وإنما حملت عنوان إسرائيل الكبرى والتي تمتد من النيل الى الفرات. وهو الشعار الذي رفعته الحركة الصهيونية طوال سنوات، وتبناه حزب الليكود الاسرائيلي في برامجه السياسية الى ما قبل سنوات.

وبعد كشف هذه المعلومات بدأت وزارة المعارف والوكالة اليهودية تبادل الاتهامات بالمسؤولية عن نشرها فالوزارة تدعي ان الوكالة أصدرتها بهدف إظهار البلدة القديمة من القدس في الفترة التوراتية، والوكالة تدعي أن جهات سياسية، وقفت وراء الخارطة.

At 2/08/2006 09:46:00 PM, Blogger Vox Populi - Agent Provocateur said...

"Web discussion sites are a natural magnet for people with mental disorders; they lack employment and social contacts and have no other outlets for their delusions and fixations."

Well I do lack employment :) if somebody has a job to offer, be my guest (not at job at Orontes Corporation please)

At 2/08/2006 10:43:00 PM, Blogger majedkhaldoon said...

if Bashar stay, then say goodby to freedom, forget about the 15000 people who died because they spoke demanding freedom, forget about the 45 billions of dollars that he his father and the officials around him who stole it, with all these crimes , somone still say keep Bashar, those who say it deserve him, but us we will rise and will be free again

At 2/09/2006 05:33:00 AM, Blogger t_desco said...

Syria Should Not Serve Iranian 'Strategic Interests' Says Former Syrian Vice President

PRESS RELEASE - Washington, D.C., Feb. 8, 2006 - Former Vice President of Syria Abdul-Halim Khaddam told the Voice of America (VOA) in an exclusive interview that he is opposed to President Assad's policy of placing Syria in a position to serve the "strategic interests" of Iran.

"I was against making Syria an instrument of Iranian policy in the Middle East," Khaddam said, "because it contradicts with Syrian traditions and history and leads to loss of independence."

Khaddam, now part of the political opposition calling for changes in Syria, told VOA's Kurdish Service that he "always had different views" when he was part of the Assad regime and that he now has a program for change.

The fact that he is able to give an interview to VOA's Kurdish Service probably means that he has some backing in Washington. He is also very clever to lump together Syria and Iran (just as Rice did in her recent comments). There are many signs that the US is preparing for a possible conflict with Iran and some may want to attack Syria as well, perhaps with the help of Kurdish forces (see, for example, "PLAN B" by Seymour Hersh)?

At 2/09/2006 06:43:00 AM, Blogger why-discuss said...

Syria is soon to become a major threat to the US and the world!
It seems US officials have been instructed to pick just any event happening in the region to pin it on Iran and Syria. This is a demonization campaign typical of this US administration to influence public opinion (See Iraq) to justify the threats. I won't be surprised that soon 60% of americans will believe that Syria is a major threat to the US and the world!
By flirting with the US administration, Khaddam is hoping to become the new Shalabi... he is pathetic.

At 2/09/2006 06:52:00 AM, Blogger EHSANI2 said...


Thank you for the story and the links


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