Jumblat at Brookings
A friend who attended Walid Jumblatt's talk at Brookings wrote this:
This morning, The Saban Center at Brookings hosted Walid Jumblatt in advance of his meetings with Secretary Rice. The audience was standing room only in the Brookings Auditorum, perhaps 200-250 people. Jumblatt made brief comments, opening with references to his father, and the price his father paid for resisting Syrian ambitions in Lebanon. He said that he had felt he had to compromise with Syria in 1978, and that he regretted having done so. Noting that it had taken 28 years for him to find the courage of his father, he expressed the hope that his father is satisfied with the position he is taking against Syria today. It was an interesting and revealing way to leapfrog over Jumblatt's complicated ties with Syria in the period since his father was killed, and re-connect himself to a purer form of anti-Syrian, Lebanese nationalist sentiment.
His stress during the Q&A was on the paramount need for the removal of Lahoud, and the need to do so without conceding to the demands of other Lebanese parties on Sheba Farms, or to take other steps that would compromise the sovereignty of the central state. Speaking of Syria's future, he rejected the argument of Bashar that if the regime fell there would be chaos in Syria. The view seemed especially instrumental given that he also offered a thinly veiled critique of US policy in Iraq by pointing out that there is no central state in Iraq anymore, and suggesting that while the removal of Saddam was for the good, the outcome has created "challenges" all across the Middle East. At the same time, he seemed to be arguing against regime change in Syria via external intervention, suggesting it would need to be the work of the Syrian opposition itself. He seemed relatively unconcerned with the possibility that a post-Asad Syria might be Islamist, reflecting on the elections in Palestine and offering the view that in the long run, democracy is preferable even it produces short-term outcomes like the victory of Hamas. He also seemed to take the view that governing will temper the radicalism of Hamas. When asked why the U.S. should care about Lebanon, the argument was that having democracies in the region is good for the U.S., and that if the U.S. didn't act on its expressed commitment to political reform, it will undermine U.S. credibility.
He expressed an interest in U.S. support for efforts to strengthen the Lebanese military, in particular.Jumblatt said he met with Khaddam in Paris, wouldn't comment on his potential as a possible leader of the opposition, but did affirm his sense that Khaddam's testimony to the Mehlis commission was "important."
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Waleed Jumblat is playing with fire.
His actions represent the behavior of derzee community they sideline with the strong. When Syrian regime was strong during the reign of king Asad the 1st he was the spoilt child of Syria in Lebanon, now things changed and Jumblat wanted to jump of the Syrian sinking ship.
It might smart move on the short term but it will not do well for the Drooz on the long run because Sunnis will look as them as traitors.
Some important quotes from his Excellency President Bashar Assad recent speech at the Arab Parties General Conference in Damascus: SSPRS agrees with all these comments and find them to be accurate:
"Syria is acting to prevent the Zionist hegemony and other international powers that are targeting the Arab nation." Al-Assad said that Syria and Lebanon are only a link in a chain which was plotted against the Arab nation and the talk about the theory of conspiracy is not an Arab invention but was clearly written in the literature of the West.”
"maybe there is another target as to draw the attention for the future like the demolishing of Al-Agsa Mosque with the aim of creating a temple similar to that of the foundation of Israel in 1948. Striking Iraq is striking the Arab nation because Iraq has big economic, scientific and human potentials and a big national and Islamic castle to the Arab nation. All these reasons pushed for the war. But what are the methods? The methods started after the invasion of Kuwait and is continuing until now. The sanctions caused the death of hundred thousands of Iraqi children."
The president added that "starvation and instability were the method adopted before the Iraq war. The second method, which started directly after the war, was the killing of Iraqi scientists. Assassination was carried out deliberately. We should not have brains, should not develop. He continued to say that the other side is to create sedition among the Iraqis in order to obliterate the Iraqi identity. To begin with was the theft of national museum. The theft process was carried out within a deliberate plan and not a matter of law or outlaws. It was an organized work. The pictures were cut by experts, some say that there were Israeli elements who entered with the American troops."
The President added "the funny thing was that the Americans convinced the whole world they would not withdraw from Iraq in view of the confusion which would be incurred as a result, while in fact the US occupation troops are the real reason behind the actual confusion taking place on the ground."
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The martyr Kamal Jumblatt was well liked by the syrian people,sunnis and other and we understand the reason that obliged Walid to hide his hatred toward father's killers.
The phone call between Bayanuni and Jumblatt was a positive thing.
No peace for the neighbor states,no well being for the syrian people as long as asad familly is in power.
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Exactly as Adonis said, and that is all I wanted to say. Cheer to Walid Jumblat. God bless you Walid!
I remember in 1976 when Kamal Jumblat argued with Hafez Asad ,he was planing to finish the christian in Lebanon with the assistance of Arafat, while Asad felt obligation to interfere and stop the fighting with gains reached for the non christians so the death of kamal Jumblat was ablessing for Lebanon and gave it years of peace.
Waleed Jumblatt would be better acting his oedipus tragedy of revenge on a stage instead of an US audience.
In the meantime his reckless remarks about the Hezb and his appeal to the US to sanction Syria only serves to sabotage the delicate dialog the lebanese are trying to have in Beirut.
Waleed Jumblatt is just a selfish parasite trying to find new allies so he can keep some kind of political power. I think the druze community should get rid of him and find a leader who is not obsessed by his personal vendetta and respect the need of a unified lebanese stand.
I suppose that being a lebanese I shouldn't be posting. But I intend to be neutral and objective, and these two qualities do not include finding compromises but saying what i believe is true:
- Jumblat is doing whatever he can to preserve the unique position of druz in lebanon. For Druz are relatively very small when compared to others such as sunnites, shiia and especially maronite. And at the same time, druz are not connected to any other religious group they are a unique, closed group, there fore they can only be allies to the strong. On the other hand Jumblat is preserving his position at the head of the Druz sect in Lebanon because historically he was not the strongest ever, there are older families among druz.
- Jumblat is opennely spinning he turned and returned a million time in his life, he doesn't even bother to hide it, that is part of lebanese politics, alliances are built on common interests and each groups interests defy others interests there fore lebanese ally against each other, that might seem unmorale but it is perfect adaptation to sectarian communities.
- Jumblat DID have to agree with the syrians even if they killed his father, BECAUSE they killed his father, at that time the maronites wanted to drink his blood so he had to get into an alliance with the christians' ennemies, and those ennemies knew very well how to keep him "tamed" by killing his strong father. Now times have changed and christians tolerate Jumblat in the face of syrians → revenge time!
Bashar Al-Assad is the only (relatively) secular/modernist ruler left standing between Istanbul and Delhi: toppling the Baathist regime of Damascus at this precise juncture would surely wreak havoc across the whole Middle-East…precisely what Paul David Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld must have had in mind when they decided to invade Iraq 3 years ago…
Anyhoo, below is my neo-Wilsonian five points plan to save the country:
A FIVE POINTS PLAN FOR LEBANON
1. Jail and try Hariri, Saniura and the bloodthirsty Wahhabi collaborators of Saydah and Dinnieh who rampaged their way through Achrafiyyeh last month, burning consulates and churches Saudi-style
2. Nullify the ill-acquired SOLIDERE shares held by « generous Saudi investors », and give back their full property right to the lawful Lebanese landowners who were illegally expropriated by Rafic Hariri and Ghazi Kanaan in 1994
3. (Re)send to jail notorious war criminals who have massacred tens of thousands of innocent Lebanese civilians from 1975 to 1990: top of the wanted list is a certain Walid J. « Beyck » who, after having supervising the ethnic cleansing of the Chouf area, was rewarded with the “ministry of refugees” by Hariri père so he could better siphon out all the money earmarked for the orphans of Damour and Souk el Gharb- it’s kind of as if Adolf Hitler had been nominated « minister of death camps survivors » back 1945 ! but I’m digressing…
4. Adopt a new Gerrymander-free electoral law based on the sound principle of the “mid-size district” that would allow for a free and fair parliamentary representation of the people of Lebanon i.e. the precise opposite of the illegal 2000 electoral law imposed at gunpoint by King Fahd Ibn Saud and General Hafiz el-Wahech
5. Proceed with the election of a new president only AFTER transparent parliamentary elections are held across the country, under the supervision of European Union and UN observers
Update on the investigation of the Ashrafiyeh/Danish consulate riot:
137 arrestations dans les émeutes d’Achrafieh
...
Au total, c’est désormais 137 personnes qui se trouvent arrêtées dans cette affaire. Parmi eux, 111 Libanais, 16 Syriens et 10 Palestiniens. ...
La Syrie avait alors été accusée d’avoir noyauté la manifestation, dans l’intention d’allumer une discorde confessionnelle au Liban. Près de 80 ouvriers syriens, ramassés sur des chantiers à Hadeth, au rond-point Cola et à Tripoli, avaient été arrêtés pour enquête, selon des sources fiables.
En fait, la manifestation avait été organisée, initialement, à l’appel d’imams de mosquée proches de Dar el-Fatwa, qui voulaient profiter de l’occasion pour faire de la surenchère sur les groupes fondamentalistes qui les critiquent. Les manifestants étaient venus de Beyrouth, mais aussi d’autres régions du Liban, comme la Békaa et Tripoli, viviers de fondamentalistes sunnites.
Des témoins avaient notamment vu, au col de Dahr el-Beïdar, des manifestants venus en car de la Békaa, faire le plein de pierres et de bouteilles vides, en prévision de la manifestation.
L'Orient-Le Jour
Members of the elite Druze regiment of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) even have their own “syncretist” flag combining Hebrew and Durzee theological symbols… No wonder Druze war criminal Walid Jumblatt got the red carpet treatment in Washington and was effusively greeted by a phalanx of Neocon grandees!
Abu Lanjari Al-Farran,
your commentary is ridiculous! Jumblatt got "red carpet treatment" because Druze members of an IDF regiment have their own "syncretist" flag!!!!
PLEASE!!!
Some facts you should consider about Arab and Muslim participation in the IDF before you damn the Druze to oblivion.
1. Sunni Beduin troops constitute, by far, the majority of Arabs/Muslim troops in the IDF
2. These Sunni Beduin individuals VOLUNTEER to join, my friend. They are not conscripted.
3. The other Muslim community that are conscripted into the IDF are the Circassian community - who are also Sunni Muslims.
Have I ever heard anything from anyone about the "treacherous" Sunnis that serve in the Israeli Army? You tell me!
PAZUZU: Every leader of a community in Lebanon has betrayed, at a time or another, the national interest of the country to preserve the priviledges and the mere existence of his community. Now most of these leaders have come to realize that their community will simply evaporate if they don't deal first with the national interest of the country ( maronites, shia...) except Jumblatt, vengeful and counter productive. He deserves no respect for his pathetic flirting with Rice, Wolfowitz and the neo-cons in the USA.
Why-discuss: I am not pretending that Jumblat's innocent or a good leader or anything. But saying that the other leaders are now "aware" of the delicacy of the situation that we - as lebanese - have put ourselves in, well that is an exageration too. The truth is, those leaders are perpetuating the same policy that they have been relying on forever, they are creating "artificial alliances to insure there respective roles in the panorama. Nothing has really changed. Jumblat has a rather rude way of being bluntly "flipping" he twists his ideologies everyday, and he fires HUGE words that he contradicts as soon as the winds change. It's plane obvious, as most of our so called politicians they have no morals and no principles, he's just not hiding it, the real problem's that he's getting away with this, no one can politically destroy Jumblat, because Jumblat always manages to change perspectives as soon as the heads change. When people watch Jumblat on the news people smile, they don't take his words seriously.People for example have not forgotten the fact that 5 years ago when the Maronite patriarch said we should "reconsider" the syrian army's presence in lebanon since israel withdrew from the south, Jumblat was among those who called him Israeli traitor and so many other names, and now Jumblat practically calls him a "saint". And people haven't forgotten that Jumblat used to be one of the most prominent Pro-Syrians, and no one is oblivious to the fact that if syria is to come back to Lebanon Jumblat would become again there ally. But on the other hand, who would want to be Jumblat's enemy? Jumblat's always on the winning side, if you are weak Jumblat will eat your corpse, when you become strong Jumblat would become your best friend, and you can't reject him because he is the representative of most Druze thus he is a foe to be feared, better have him as an ally than as a enemy. Like it or not politics' not about principles.
( I didn't use spell check so I hope I didn't offend english language too much)
Pazuzu: I do not agree with you. If Jumblatt is a folklorique personnality, he is also a dangerous one and the balance in Lebanon is so delicate now that any 'faux-pas' intentionnal or not should be avoided. I was shocked to know that he left the national dialog to visit Rice, for what? What is more important than this dialog, yet he opted to dump all these leaders trying to find some kind of agreement to babble about his hatred for Syria and embarass Nasrallah. Look what happened, he is now responsible for the disarray of the dialog and ... what is terrible, he is probably happy as it gives him the importance he is always begging for. How long can we can we accept that a pathetic buffoon like Jumblatt sets the rule?
Pazuzu: I do not agree with you. If Jumblatt is a folklorique personnality, he is also a dangerous one and the balance in Lebanon is so delicate now that any 'faux-pas' intentionnal or not should be avoided. I was shocked to know that he left the national dialog to visit Rice, for what? What is more important than this dialog, yet he opted to dump all these leaders trying to find some kind of agreement to babble about his hatred for Syria and embarass Nasrallah. Look what happened, he is now responsible for the disarray of the dialog and ... what is terrible, he is probably happy as it gives him the importance he is always begging for. How long can we can we accept that a pathetic buffoon like Jumblatt sets the rule?
No question about that. But another delicacy of the Lebanese politics, and especially to the druze community: They choose there own leaders, other Lebanese can’t dictate the durzi leader. It’s the curse of the sectarian society (in addition to the civil war lol).
As for the part where you say:
“What is more important than this dialog, yet he opted to dump all these leaders trying to find some kind of agreement to babble about his hatred for Syria and embarass Nasrallah. Look what happened, he is now responsible for the disarray of the dialog and ...”
Well I suppose in here it is a simple disagreement, I see jumblat as a very Traditional kind of politicians, I see him immature and very selfish, but other leaders are not innocent from these charges either, it comes with our bad choice of representatives. And the dialog was known to be only mildly successful, everyone was looking for an excuse to quit, and Nasrallah was the first to NEED an excuse to quit, it’s just that Jumblat was irresponsible one that gave him that excuse.
for Gods sake be responsible , be Lebanese first, they are all playing with us, from Nasralla to Jumblat to all......so be wise and save your time. Im druze by the way, but Im Lebanese first. What makes me afraid is that if I'm not with Jomblat who will suppose to replace him?? Wahab the idiot spy of Syria or the project of 8 March group that is untouched and from God, nobody can claim with it. Come on use your minds please and be lebanese second and human beings first and after all, and nothing else after.
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